Stolen Pistol

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coldshot said:
Yes but instead most of the comments sound like a lynch mob. Hang him high, even if he's one of us, and admits his mistake. I wonder if any of the people posting the negative comments have ever made a mistake and if they did, did they try to do the right thing like this guy did.
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Apparently not after reading the comments.
 
tazik said:
One word : Looser
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Now I gotta cut loose
Footloose, kick off the Sunday shoes
Please, Louise, pull me off of my knees
Jack, get back, come on before we crack
Lose your blues, everybody cut footloose.
 
Deckard said:
Amount of effort making a case against gun owner: monumental.
Against thief?

Who?
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The gun owner is a theft victim no doubt about that. According to the articles, there are no witnesses and there are no suspects. But I sure the RCMP would like to find the thief for obvious reasons. I would guess if the gun/vehicle owner had done nothing more than lock the car doors, we would not be reading about it. Non-event.

The gun owner was dumb by not locking his car doors and by leaving a valuable/attractive item in the car. Firearm ownership comes with responsibilities and this guy screwed up.
 
grimreefer said:
Okay let's talk about the thief. You start...
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They are described as a person, with at least enough hands to be able to open a car door and center console. Experts believe that they are in possession of a revolver and 25 rounds of ammunition.

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coldshot said:
Yes but instead most of the comments sound like a lynch mob. Hang him high, even if he's one of us, and admits his mistake. I wonder if any of the people posting the negative comments have ever made a mistake and if they did, did they try to do the right thing like this guy did.
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If the dumbass wanted to do the "right thing" he wouldn't have left a handgun and ammo in the console of his unlocked vehicle.

He gets no credit for reporting because he was going to have to face the music at some point. Either he could admit what happened when it happened or wait until the gun showed up in the hands of a criminal, is traced back to him and then have some serious explaining to do.

He gets what he deserves. Loss of RPAL, loss of guns and a nice long firearms prohibition would be about right.

http://www.cochraneeagle.com/article/How-a-stolen-gun-could-affect-a-life-20160818

How a stolen gun could affect a life

Thursday, Aug 18, 2016 06:00 am

Earlier this week a Cochrane man had a registered, legal gun stolen from his vehicle and while the RCMP is investigating the matter, where the gun is now and what it is being used for is unknown.

On Aug. 14, a .357 revolver handgun and 25 rounds of ammunition were taken from an unlocked vehicle located on Bow Ridge Road. The registered gun owner was charged with unsafe storage of a firearm but it was because of his “due diligence” of reporting the theft right away that he was not charged with more.

“The owner took the proper measures and used due diligence in letting the police know right away,” said Const. Jennifer Brewer. Brewer explained that depending on RCMP officers’ discretion, there are a number of charges under the Firearms Act in the Canadian Criminal Code that an individual could be charged with when a gun is stolen.

“In this case, the man came forward right away and he was victimized here so we are making sure he is being treated as such but we are also dealing with dangerous weapons,” Brewer said.

“This is definitely a police and public safety issue. Now that gun is out in the public and we have no control now – we don’t know what it will be used for.”

Had the gun owner not come forward right away (or at all), if the gun was used in a future crime, Brewer said he could have been “charged with a lot.” She compared it to if someone was to lend a vehicle to a friend and that person was to get in an accident, the owner would be at fault.

The Cochrane RCMP strongly encourages anyone who has a dangerous weapon stolen from them to report it. Reporting stolen weapons gives the RCMP the chance to be aware of the situation and a chance to actively search for the weapon, officers explain.

“We just want to give people the same advice every time this happens, remember to lock your vehicles and keep your gun secured safely and properly,” Brewer said.
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"Had the gun owner not come forward right away (or at all), if the gun was used in a future crime, Brewer said he could have been “charged with a lot.” She compared it to if someone was to lend a vehicle to a friend and that person was to get in an accident, the owner would be at fault."

Doubtful. A serial number is not a unique identifier, and the information in the firearms registry has been demonstrated to be quite flawed, to the point where it may not be admissible in a court of law.

So what this fellow did was commit a crime and then march straight to the police station and confess to it. I don't know which was dumber.
 
Claybuster said:
If the dumbass wanted to do the "right thing" he wouldn't have left a handgun and ammo in the console of his unlocked vehicle.

He gets what he deserves. Loss of RPAL, loss of guns and a nice long firearms prohibition would be about right.

http://www.cochraneeagle.com/article/How-a-stolen-gun-could-affect-a-life-20160818
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Nothing like kicking a half dead dog, all he had to do was tell them he lost it, or forgot it at the range, nobody but him, and the scumbag that stole it knew it was in the car.
 
Dave_G said:
"Had the gun owner not come forward right away (or at all), if the gun was used in a future crime, Brewer said he could have been “charged with a lot.” She compared it to if someone was to lend a vehicle to a friend and that person was to get in an accident, the owner would be at fault."

Doubtful. A serial number is not a unique identifier, and the information in the firearms registry has been demonstrated to be quite flawed, to the point where it may not be admissible in a court of law.

So what this fellow did was commit a crime and then march straight to the police station and confess to it. I don't know which was dumber.
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Serial numbers are very admissible. They've been used to pinch morons who buy guns legally and then sell them on the black market.

Here's how it could play out:

"Mr. Gunowner, this is your local police service calling. We've recovered a handgun that is registered to you at the scene of a crime. We'd like you to come down to the station to discuss it." ​

If you get that call you are in a world of the brown stuff. Better to take your lumps when the gun is stolen and throw yourself on the mercy of the courts.
 
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coldshot said:
Nothing like kicking a half dead dog, all he had to do was tell them he lost it, or forgot it at the range, nobody but him, and the scumbag that stole it knew it was in the car.
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How much should the gun owner trust the scumbag? It could just as easily transpire that the scumbag gets caught and confesses where and how he got the gun in return for reduced charges. If the gun owner followed your dubious advice of lying to the police he'd be in far deeper and facing far more serious charges.

The guy did the right thing by reporting it not out of some greater public interest but to save his own sorry ass from more serious charges.
 
Gotta love the layers and layers of rules and regulations piled on, never quite perfect, always increasing, never having a demonstrable purpose, so at some point a snide guy online can condemn and someone for breaking one of them. Maybe rightfully so, but by sure volume of regulations just as likely not.
 
Claybuster said:
If the gun owner followed your dubious advice of lying to the police he'd be in far deeper
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Get a grip on reality, I'm not advising anyone to lie to the police, all I'm saying is that he made a stupid mistake, became a victim, was honest by owning up to his mistake, and now he's paying for it. Who's the real criminal here, him or the thief.
 
coldshot said:
Get a grip on reality, I'm not advising anyone to lie to the police, all I'm saying is that he made a stupid mistake, became a victim, was honest by owning up to his mistake, and now he's paying for it. Who's the real criminal here, him or the thief.
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They both broke the law.
 
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