Location for indoor range near GTA?

OneBarfly said:
There's an empty Rona in Durham Region. The building is not old and is right across the street from Princess Auto, within a thousand yards south of the 401 off Thickson Road
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I completely forgot about that one, it's near the steel mill and damn near a perfect spot too. Plenty of space for range and front of house with classrooms etc.
 
CanAm said:
Back of the napkin:

25ish lanes
rubber backstop
target retrieval
pro-shop
lounge
classrooms with PAL courses

no idea baout the contractors. Get bids and go from there, the usual.
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Ahh... I was wondering if you guys would also have a storefront/gun shop included. That would be cool! (especially if you're in the west... like Peel/Halton area)
 
prim8tiv said:
Reason I say 2-3 hours is that the GTA is a huge place... Hell it can take an more than an hour easy just to get from one end to the other!

If you stick it in Oshawa guys from Hamilton will have an hour plus drive easy...just keeping it realistic and honest...

Realistically there will be a small number of members within less than an hour pretty much no matter where unless you are right in the core of a major city (good luck with those reg/politics!)

Consider Silverdale...if your in Oshawa that's almost a 2 hour drive and yes lots of people are willing to do that!

Just my 2 cent
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OK then... where is your lot?
 
CanAm said:
I love the idea of repurposing these type of buildings. Usually great value to buy/lease
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Apparently there are plenty of available buildings in Bolton's rather large industrial area. Also some box-mall type buildings. Definitely worth a look...
 
Bad Lieutenant said:
Have to disagree with you on that. Waaay more highway access going west. 401/403/407/QEW. These are all accessible from the 427 and 410, and just minutes from the 400, all running north/south.

To go east, you've only got the 401 or 407, with only the DVP/404 running north/south. There's just no comparison...
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407 you have to pay. Anyone that goes to west end whether that 401, 403/QEW always high traffic and so many trucks. I know this from driving to Burlington club from east.

East end and north of DVP gets my vote
 
If you are seriously considering a building (Reno or new build) within 30 minutes of Newmarket, I would provide Architectural services to help you guys along.
 
It's been mentioned a couple of time before - Durham Region, where the east boundary of Toronto ends, and Durham Region starts. Most of the local municipalities within the Region are "gun friendly" for the most part - especially on indoor ranges.

I know of one (and there are others in the Region) goods/gun store in the Oshawa area that is currently in the "admin"/licencing process for building an indoor facility - bays for both 50 yard rifle and 20-25 yard handgun.

For the number of long guns and handguns sold in the GTA, and people wanting to shoot them, there can never be enough government sanctioned ranges.
 
CanAm said:
Back of the napkin:

25ish lanes
rubber backstop
target retrieval
pro-shop
lounge
classrooms with PAL courses

no idea baout the contractors. Get bids and go from there, the usual.
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If you can have a store that competes with Western pricing, you'd see me at least once a week or more. Until then, my cash goes west where they seem to be able to make Central Ontario shops look silly. I will support your range though if you're out Durham way!
 
The first thing any range builder needs is an exemption from the no firearms discharge bylaw in the jurisdiction you plan to build. The CFO won't even look at your architectural range blueprints until you have that exemption.
You will have to make quite the sales pitch to any GTA city, town or region to get that exemption.
 
Toronto is moving further north as it gets bigger, Barrie is getting bigger and moving south, everything in between is booming right now. If you put something between those two cities your in the pay dirt.
 
Natureboy said:
I took a serious run at this about a year ago. Had the financial backing in place and was ready to go the problem is finding a place that won't stab you in the back once you start building. We were looking in the maple Vaughan area. Just off 400 with a fully indoor complex including a curling rink and a pro store above.

Good luck if you do find a place and need money or partners I can supply Both.
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Vaughan would be awesome, i too would be willing to talk about partnership and/or financial imvestment in such a place.
 
bacardi said:
407 you have to pay. Anyone that goes to west end whether that 401, 403/QEW always high traffic and so many trucks. I know this from driving to Burlington club from east.

East end and north of DVP gets my vote
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Ah, I didn't realize that the 407 east was free.

And I've traveled the 401, the only other route going east, many times and have run into the same horrendous traffic, (if not worse) with the same annoying trucks. At least there's more options going west if traffic is bad or jammed up from an accident, or construction, etc. The numbers speak for themselves. There's simply more routes going west. (oh, and several of those routes also have HOV lanes... huge bonus.)
 
Bad Lieutenant said:
Ah, I didn't realize that the 407 east was free.

And I've traveled the 401, the only other route going east, many times and have run into the same horrendous traffic, (if not worse) with the same annoying trucks. At least there's more options going west if traffic is bad or jammed up from an accident, or construction, etc. The numbers speak for themselves. There's simply more routes going west. (oh, and several of those routes also have HOV lanes... huge bonus.)
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No need to be sarcastic. It does not make any point better.
I did not mention 407 east in my reply because I would never use it since I have to pay.

Not taking 407 into consideration, 401 east and 404 north is much a breeze to travel compare to the ones go to west.
I can say this from my experience driving to Burlington club and ended up leaving the club and joined Target Sports Canada.

There are more routes going to the west because they need it. They always jammed up hence they built more routes, and they are still jammed up
 
bacardi said:
No need to be sarcastic. It does not make any point better.
I did not mention 407 east in my reply because I would never use it since I have to pay.

Not taking 407 into consideration, 401 east and 404 north is much a breeze to travel compare to the ones go to west.
I can say this from my experience driving to Burlington club and ended up leaving the club and joined Target Sports Canada.

There are more routes going to the west because they need it. They always jammed up hence they built more routes, and they are still jammed up
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More routes because of more people, which means more customers, which means more money... sounds like an obvious choice to me!

(no sarcasm intended :) )
 
Bad Lieutenant said:
More routes because of more people, which means more customers, which means more money... sounds like an obvious choice to me!

(no sarcasm intended :) )
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Not necessary. In this case, more routes to accommodate high traffic. High traffic means longer travel time. Longer travel time means more stress and little time to shoot and more time on the road. This means little interest means lesser money.

As the others said, Toronto development is moving north east and east end. Great opportunity to tap into this market. See how Target Sports Canada can charge double or triple than the other clubs and still going. More people with money live in these areas. :)
 
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