need advices first load with RN FCP 230gr bullets for .45acp

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hey guys.

Just got into reloading last week, started thumbling all my once fired .45 acp brass.

Resized,deprimed and then reprimed.

Now today i flared and measure EVERY case making sure they have the max.trim length.

I would be ready to reload but im stuck with a little problem.

I got 3 pounds of CFE-pistol powder and 500 campro RN FCP bullets and i cant find the exact load for these two.

There's a chart on Hodgdon website for LRN and Hornady FMJ FP.

I have RN full copper plated... can i use the LRN recipe???? Lead round nose is not the same thing i dont know... to me their both round nose 230 gr but im a noob so i need to ask.

and on Campro's website i dont have a recipe with CFE-Pistol powder.

And on the other i side i found some forum that people go over some recommanded load with CFE-Pistol because muzzle vel. under 800 fps

advice please!
 
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to be on the safe side use the LRN load data because you are using plated bullets and they are closer to lead bullets vs jacketed. that being said i've used jacketed load data for plated bullets with no ill effects but i generally don't load to max with plinking loads.
 
Spawn-Inc said:
to be on the safe side use the LRN load data because you are using plated bullets and they are closer to lead bullets vs jacketed. that being said i've used jacketed load data for plated bullets with no ill effects but i generally don't load to max with plinking loads.
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I ve read some ppl are using 6.8 gr to be near factory ammo with this powder. I wont do that but still... people are saying this powder is better for high pressure rounds? 9mm or 40.

As mentionned im doing my very first batch.. will start doing 20 rounds, then ill slowly increase.
 
vince514 said:
I ve read some ppl are using 6.8 gr to be near factory ammo with this powder. I wont do that but still... people are saying this powder is better for high pressure rounds? 9mm or 40.

As mentionned im doing my very first batch.. will start doing 20 rounds, then ill slowly increase.
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I only recently bought a few pounds of CFE pistol to see what it's like but haven't really had a chance to load anything with it. I will likely be using it for 9mm and 45acp, maybe 38spl. I usually use w231/hp38 for 45acp, tightgroup for 9mm and bullseye for 38spl. If i have things figured out, cfe pistol should be better for heavier bullets because it's slower burning then most of the popular pistol powders.

With a new powder or bullet weight i typically load 5-10 rounds at .3gr increments from the starting load to max. I will try the cfe pistol in the next couple week with a powder coated 230gr round nose and will start at 5.5gr up to 6.8gr.
 
When I get a new powder, I start low and make 10 of each in 0.3 gr increments up to the max.

I shoot these and see if the gun cycles with the mild loads and to see if one load groups better than the others. Usually I find that the gun has a clear favourite.

With your powder and bullets, I would load from 5.0 up to around 6.2

And I never, ever measure case length for pistol brass.
 
I am using 6.4gr of CFE PISTOL with 230gr FCP RN Campro bullets at 1.250 OAL and working perfecly in my Norinco 45acp
 
ive been using 5.6 > 6.2 gr of CFE pistol with 230 gr campro bullets at 1.200 OAL worked perfectly too.

Only problem would be residue in the barrel for me.. is that unburned powder????

besides that everything working fine for me.
 
If you check Campro's site they say you can use jacketed data. Berry on the other hand states "Use lead data."
As usual use start load and work up.

UP-DATE to the above post. I went to Campro's site just to double check the above info. It appears Campro is now listing load data for their bullets.
 
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Be careful of the "feels like" method of measuring pressure in handloads. Sometimes "feels like" may surprise you. A chrony is a good alternative.
 
saskcop said:
Be careful of the "feels like" method of measuring pressure in handloads. Sometimes "feels like" may surprise you. A chrony is a good alternative.
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thx for the advice. these are my very first reloads and i ve been very careful.

used only the recommended loading data : 5.6 gr up to 6.2 for RLN 230 gr.

FMJ 230 gr is 6.2 up to 6.8 max load.
 
I'm using Campro 230gn RN with 6.0gn CFE pistol (@1.260 COL) for IDPA - works fine through my Ruger SR1911, very soft shooting and accurate.
 
vince514 said:
did you chamged o.a.l? on hodgdon they specify 1.200 oal and this is what im using.

except feeding reliability does it change anything? pressure i think?
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1.200 is the OAL Hodgdon lists for jacketed FN, I found the 1.260 for jacketed RN in a post on a US forum - it cycles fine and shoots straight, when I do my part anyway LOL
 
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Hi vince514,

you are ok to use LRN data, just follow what Ganderite said, start with the low end, use 0.2gr as increment and NEVER over the MAX, and STOP at first sign of stress. Then you will be fine.
I have been following this practice with different calibers from 9 to 44mag with 20K rounds with no issues.



vince514 said:
hey guys.

Just got into reloading last week, started thumbling all my once fired .45 acp brass.

Resized,deprimed and then reprimed.

Now today i flared and measure EVERY case making sure they have the max.trim length.

I would be ready to reload but im stuck with a little problem.

I got 3 pounds of CFE-pistol powder and 500 campro RN FCP bullets and i cant find the exact load for these two.

There's a chart on Hodgdon website for LRN and Hornady FMJ FP.

I have RN full copper plated... can i use the LRN recipe???? Lead round nose is not the same thing i dont know... to me their both round nose 230 gr but im a noob so i need to ask.

and on Campro's website i dont have a recipe with CFE-Pistol powder.

And on the other i side i found some forum that people go over some recommanded load with CFE-Pistol because muzzle vel. under 800 fps

advice please!
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Hi Vince514, OAL is just a reference as it varies slightly from gun to gun, barrel to barrel. the best way to determine the OAL for your gun is a "drop-in" test.
load a dummy round long, take out your barrel and drop it in. the cartridge will not turn freely. and then adjust the seating to shorten the cartridge, little by little until the butt sits almost flush with the barrel mouth and can turn freely in the barrel.
that's your OAL. it should fall in the min/max range of the SAAMI standard(free pdf download online). then you are set. and don't be alerted if you get slightly different length from cartridge to cartridge if you are on a progressive press because due to the different situation at different station, the pressure on sizing could vary a little. as long as it's within the limit and fit the drop-in test, you are good.

vince514 said:
did you changed o.a.l? on hodgdon they specify 1.200 oal and this is what im using.

except feeding reliability does it change anything? pressure i think?
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