M1 carbine guys,please give me help with this rifle.

MJS

MJS

CGN Regular
Rating - 100%
45   0   0
Location
Newfoundland
a friend of friend is selling a few rifles he had laying around his home,and when my buddy saw this one,he messaged me and asked if I was interested,which I am,but I'd like to get some info on it

He says there's no manufacturers markings other then a serial number.so just based on these few pictures he provided,can anyone tell me any info on this,or a value?I want to pay him what's it worth,but I don't want to rip him off,or get ripped off.

Thanks in advance guys.
image_15.jpeg
[/URL][/IMG]
image_13.jpeg
[/URL][/IMG]
image_14.jpeg
[/URL][/IMG]
 
The restricted GI-spec M1s typically go for $400, unless there's something unusual or rare about them.

That one has the early straight, high wood stock, but the late production (mid-1944 on) round bolt. It has the push button safety, which was replaced with a switch very late in the war and was commonly retrofitted to refurbished carbines. The handguard is also the earlier two rivet version, which was replaced with the four rivet in 1945. It also has the Type 1 barrel band, which was fitted to the vast majority of M1s; it was replaced in mid-1944 by the Type 2, which had a larger surface area which was more secure than the Type 1, but wasn't seen as much.

I don't think it's a Universal, or if it is it's an early one assembled from surplus components made by other manufacturers. Universal usually had metal ventilated handguards and switched to a stamped op rod when their supplies ran out.
 
Are there markings underneath the rear sight, on the top of the barrel near the front sight, or on the receiver ring?
 
I don't actually have access to the rifle,just going from those pictures.he's asking a very low price(in my mind)and I think it's lower then it's worth and really do t want to rip him off as he clearly needs the money or he would et be selling off a lifetimes collection of collectables.
 
$400 for a restricted USGI M1 carbine is quite low on valuation - $750-850 is more like it in our current milsurp market but I guess maybe that is what a shop would give you if they make a business of buying and selling arms for a living...

Very, very few M1s would have escaped service without going through at least one or two refurb. processes.
So determining what it is overall and the intricacies of what refurbs it has seen, and what, if any have been done to it outside of service will require a thorough going over of the rifle and its parts.
If you don't have reference books, check out the M1 carbine collector's forum
http://www .uscarbinecal30.com/forum/?MobileView=off
 
Beltfed is quite correct on the current range of prices for a USGI M1 carbine.

If the S/N on this is 564435 (looking at one of the photos) it would be an INLAND from the first serial block. And, yes the mfg will be under the rear sight.

High wood stock with a 2 rivet handguard indicates early production, so it might be an INLAND stock. Handguard is deep cut groove, which is early to mid-range of this S/N block. Note crack, which is why these were changed to shallow-cut groove. Slide appears to be an early one too. With a Type I barrel band, & push button safety, I'd say this one might have a number of original parts.
 
The seller has not mentioned if it is restricted or non(I'm assuming restricted,looks like a 16.5" barrel)but either way the price he's selling it for I'm all over it.
 
I should have mentioned this before. The adjustable rear sight is not original. Those were introduced very late in the war, but were very commonly installed on refurbished carbines.
 
beltfed said:
$400 for a restricted USGI M1 carbine is quite low on valuation - $750-850 is more like it in our current milsurp market but I guess maybe that is what a shop would give you if they make a business of buying and selling arms for a living...
Click to expand...

My bad. I was thinking of restricted post war commercial M1s from Universal and Plainfield when I wrote that price.
 
Yeah, I guess for a restricted commercial one. But even that I think would be a decent price, as it seems non-restricted used commercial models in decent nick are selling for upwards of around $800-900.
New commercial non-restricted ones are going for over a grand :ang
 
Not necessarily. The round bolt was introduced in mid-1944. The rest of the gun has components used until 1944, so depending on the date of manufacture it's entirely possible the bolt is original.
 
All wartime bolts were blued, not parkerized. That bolt looks like it was once blued, even if it has long since worn away.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom