Hmm, pardon my doubting, but I would bring a few pictures and witnesses to support that. Especially the SKS part.
SKS or Mosin Nagant?
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Hmm, pardon my doubting, but I would bring a few pictures and witnesses to support that. Especially the SKS part.
I would agree that 1.5" unsupported with mosin is good - I would say it is great. However, imho, shooting unsupported speaks more about the shooter than the gun. Using a led sled is a better way when you want to compare the guns.
Mosin is a better shooter, but I still vote sks (love at first sight)
I accuracy test all my guns off a rest/lead sled. Why introduce human error when your trying to figure out WHAT THE GUN WILL DO.
Except that this does nothing about determining which is a better gun in actual use FOR YOU - a scoped gun or an iron sighted gun. Even from a sled, the scoped gun has an advantage in seeing the target better. The irons gun might shoot straighter, but not if the shooter can't see the target well.
For me it is a scoped sks - I put a leupold VX-3 1.5-5x20mm on it because it is about my old eyes and I don't care if some dude out there will be tempted to mumble about pigs and gold rings. Still shoots about 2.5" at 100 yards. not better. But its fun!
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Lead sled to lead sled, i bet an Axis fed with factory ammo, will probably print better than a stock mosin fed with factory ammo.
plus I dont have an Axis. Remember? lol
I actually have a video of me shooting this girl, off a lead sled, and getting a 1.5" 3 shot group @ 100yrds. she almost always opens up after 3 shots.... lol i own many sub MOA guns if you always count only 3 rounds!
plus I dont have an Axis. Remember? lol
I actually have a video of me shooting this girl, off a lead sled, and getting a 1.5" 3 shot group @ 100yrds. she almost always opens up after 3 shots.... lol i own many sub MOA guns if you always count only 3 rounds!
Lead sled to lead sled, i bet an Axis fed with factory ammo, will probably print better than a stock mosin fed with factory ammo.
plus I dont have an Axis. Remember? lol
I actually have a video of me shooting this girl, off a lead sled, and getting a 1.5" 3 shot group @ 100yrds. she almost always opens up after 3 shots.... lol i own many sub MOA guns if you always count only 3 rounds!
Can you do 1.5" unsupported with an SKS? I can't. Best I've ever gotten trying dozens of different ones was about 3MOA. I can pretty free quently do 1.5" with a Mosin for 3 to 5 shots.
I posted a 3 shot target because I had one to post. I've done 5 shots in that size lots of times with iron sighted Mosins. Shooting prone is not much different than shooting on a sled if you practise. From a sled though, I'd bet the gun that shot my target would be MOA or slightly better.
I may...i'll have to try it some time... the AA stock the gun is currently in actually has about an 1/8th" play forward and backwards, probably not the best for accuracy, this fall and winter I intend to carve out a Dragunov stock for the gun out of a laminate blank from Boyds, hopefully that will be bedded well enough, and I can do proper SKS accuracy videos on Utube next summer....
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Ive had experience with both , I'll give you my 2 cents
SKS
Lots of aftermarket parts , easy to strip and clean regardless of what ammo you're firing ( corrosive or non )
Open sights just like an ak , sight adjustment tool works well and requires only a few box mags to get your rifle zeroed
Try to get the chrome lined version if you can, I've found the #1 barrels to be quite accurate.
Pro's
Cheap to purchase , upgrade and operate , easy to maintain.
Con's
Depending on location limited mag capacity , not reliable past 300-400 yards ( the cartridges fault not the rifle )
Mosin Negant
Pro's
Your firing something that makes you feel like your about to storm a beach in some world war !
It's loud as hell, kicks like a mule BUT can be fairly accurate to 400-500 yards with practise
Con's
No after market support, more a history lesson then a rifle ImO
It's loud as hell and kicks like a mule
My choice would be to own both.... But overall you will enjoy the sks more often - bring out the mosin to let your friends fire a rifle triple their age
SKS
Lots of aftermarket parts , easy to strip and clean regardless of what ammo you're firing ( corrosive or non )
Open sights just like an ak , sight adjustment tool works well and requires only a few box mags to get your rifle zeroed
Try to get the chrome lined version if you can, I've found the #1 barrels to be quite accurate.
Pro's
Cheap to purchase , upgrade and operate , easy to maintain.
Con's
Depending on location limited mag capacity , not reliable past 300-400 yards ( the cartridges fault not the rifle )
Mosin Negant
Pro's
Your firing something that makes you feel like your about to storm a beach in some world war !
It's loud as hell, kicks like a mule BUT can be fairly accurate to 400-500 yards with practise
Con's
No after market support, more a history lesson then a rifle ImO
It's loud as hell and kicks like a mule
My choice would be to own both.... But overall you will enjoy the sks more often - bring out the mosin to let your friends fire a rifle triple their age
This is what I am talking about....
Nice setup.
Here is my 2c...
I prefer Mosin over SKS for its richer history. SKS is cheap, reliable, and reasonably accurate. Add to it cheapest centerfire round and tons of tacticool accessories - you got recipe for perfect gateway drug. SKS is like honda civic cheap to get in and then you can play with toys and upgrades. But its historic value to me is rather insignificant. ymmv ;]
I prefer Mosin over SKS for its richer history. SKS is cheap, reliable, and reasonably accurate. Add to it cheapest centerfire round and tons of tacticool accessories - you got recipe for perfect gateway drug. SKS is like honda civic cheap to get in and then you can play with toys and upgrades. But its historic value to me is rather insignificant. ymmv ;]
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First decide between semi auto or bolt action. Better yet, get both. Hell get 2 of each!
p.Rundle
CGN frequent flyer
It served in 'nam which is pretty cool. You can always pretend to be a VC when you're shooting one.
it is like pretending to be a mujahid when you're shooting lee-enfield
The SKS and the Mosin are the two cheapest rifles to be had in Canada right now.
Buy both.
I bought about 8 guns when I was going through university and living on a student's budget. If you can't afford both, it's time to leave the part-time job at the corner store for greener pastures.
If I had to pick one? Mosin. Hands down. People will poo poo it as cheap Russian sh*t, (Well, it is cheap AND Russian) but it is probably my most accurate milsurp with my reloads. People who put them down usually don't know what they're talking about. It wil out-shoot my Enfields, and do a hair better than my Mauser. I'm still toying with the idea of a scout scope for it, but that may go on my Steyr M95 carbine. Modifying this thing for accuracy is incredibly simple, and as easy as Googling the old Soviet manual for it. Look at the pictures and read what others have done... then do that thing. I'm out about .50 cents in shims, sand paper, and some grease soaked cloth.
The SKS is nice as it is, but I find it clumsy and radically different from most fire arms I own, apart from the D model. The stock is too short, reloading is awkward, aftermarket parts tend be cheap garbage, modified ones don't 'feel' right to me, etc, etc. The lack of a proper detachable magazine is a real draw back for me. Though all that being said: It's a good beginner gun and accurate enough. It's usually the second gun I introduce most newbie shooters to, after my Remington 597.
Buy both.
I bought about 8 guns when I was going through university and living on a student's budget. If you can't afford both, it's time to leave the part-time job at the corner store for greener pastures.
If I had to pick one? Mosin. Hands down. People will poo poo it as cheap Russian sh*t, (Well, it is cheap AND Russian) but it is probably my most accurate milsurp with my reloads. People who put them down usually don't know what they're talking about. It wil out-shoot my Enfields, and do a hair better than my Mauser. I'm still toying with the idea of a scout scope for it, but that may go on my Steyr M95 carbine. Modifying this thing for accuracy is incredibly simple, and as easy as Googling the old Soviet manual for it. Look at the pictures and read what others have done... then do that thing. I'm out about .50 cents in shims, sand paper, and some grease soaked cloth.
The SKS is nice as it is, but I find it clumsy and radically different from most fire arms I own, apart from the D model. The stock is too short, reloading is awkward, aftermarket parts tend be cheap garbage, modified ones don't 'feel' right to me, etc, etc. The lack of a proper detachable magazine is a real draw back for me. Though all that being said: It's a good beginner gun and accurate enough. It's usually the second gun I introduce most newbie shooters to, after my Remington 597.
