Spuhr HK SL8 Mag adapter

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Anyone know where I can find a mag adapter to run AR mags in my Hk SL8? I tried all of the businesses in the above sticky, it almost sounds like they stopped making them. I am only interested in the Spuhr built adapter.

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TJW
 
Nope. Most said that they were not stocking them anymore. Only one company offered to check and see if they can still get them.
 
Information on Spuhr product availability

After getting in touch with Spuhr over the telephone, the kind Swedish people there said that their SL8 products they do not keep a stock of, which is why magazine wells and the like are not available at the present time. But that they do still make them if the motivation is there.

Directly from Spuhr and information that is correct as of this writing: they require an order that is between 30 to 50 units in size, and the lead time for producing that order is 6 to 8 weeks.

This means that if there is demand for 30 or more magazine wells (I think this is the product that is most in demand, although their forends and top rails look really nice too), Spuhr will be happy to supply them within three months (accounting for shipping and so forth) of the order being placed. Pricing depends on the amount ordered. No price estimate is available at this time, but Coretac had them listed for 385 CAD.

Is there demand for 30 or more magazine wells? Are people willing to wait 3 months to receive them?

While this may morph into a group buy which I believe requires authorization from the forum administration, for now maybe we can NOT clog up the thread with "I would buy one if it is 199.99$ (price may actually be higher) but not a cent more!" or "I'll take five!" or anything else that does not contribute to the discussion in a non-consumerist manner.

The information is there, and if anyone wants to take the reigns in moving this forward then hats off to you.

Replacement magwells from other manufacturers: HK makes one that sells for between 85 EUR and 230 EUR (depending on supplier, not including any shipping costs), and then there was the aluminium North Eastern Arms one that cost about 200 CAD, 250 CAD? Any other options?

This at present is NOT a group buy.
 
Come the new year when funds look better, I may have a project mag well for forum member rambones.

I am not sure it is possible, but think ACR-esk. If not I was going to see what he would charge to duplicate a SPUHR mag well and bolt release.

When I talked to the owner of RDSC about bringing in a SPURH mag well he said that Spur told him that their country's laws had changed and the could no longer export "gun parts" luckily their scope mounts are not categorized as such.

If what you say is true, Spur must have told him a tall tale as I have confidence he is an upstanding person with no need to lie to me about the issue of needing to order a batch.
 
onetwentyish said:
Come the new year when funds look better, I may have a project mag well for forum member rambones.

I am not sure it is possible, but think ACR-esk. If not I was going to see what he would charge to duplicate a SPUHR mag well and bolt release.

When I talked to the owner of RDSC about bringing in a SPURH mag well he said that Spur told him that their country's laws had changed and the could no longer export "gun parts" luckily their scope mounts are not categorized as such.

If what you say is true, Spur must have told him a tall tale as I have confidence he is an upstanding person with no need to lie to me about the issue of needing to order a batch.
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Interesting issue of legal compliance which I am not inclined to believe. Germany is said to have the strictest export laws in regards to defence technology and yet it isn't a problem for an individual like you or I (well, the seller does that on the behalf of the buyer) to get the permit for the export of a magazine well (speaking for experience dating back a couple of months). Stripped lowers (well, upper and lower receivers), stripped bolts, and stripped barrels are the three items that are under strict export control (including requiring an import permit from the country of receipt). Everything else (not including optics, that is a different category) (at least for Germany) requires some paperwork that is really just a formality.

Duplication via resin pressure casting of the magwell body should not be a problem (although pressure cast resin has about half the strength of injection moulded polyethylene plastic, and even less than the nylon that the magwell is likely originally made from) and can be done at home, but what about the metal parts that compose the mag release? Or duplication of the magwell via being completely milled out of aluminium? We are speaking of a product that is approaching 400 CAD in price, so maybe CNC milling is the way to go? And then of course comes the issue of patent protection. Whether Spuhr's design is patented or not is unknown and if they will be unhappy by their product being duplicated or not is also unknown.

Bolt releases perhaps can be made by forum member CNADNSL8-5? He has experience is bolt release manufacture.
 
oenone said:
Interesting issue of legal compliance which I am not inclined to believe. Germany is said to have the strictest export laws in regards to defence technology and yet it isn't a problem for an individual like you or I (well, the seller does that on the behalf of the buyer) to get the permit for the export of a magazine well (speaking for experience dating back a couple of months). Stripped lowers (well, upper and lower receivers), stripped bolts, and stripped barrels are the three items that are under strict export control (including requiring an import permit from the country of receipt). Everything else (not including optics, that is a different category) (at least for Germany) requires some paperwork that is really just a formality.

Duplication via resin pressure casting of the magwell body should not be a problem (although pressure cast resin has about half the strength of injection moulded polyethylene plastic, and even less than the nylon that the magwell is likely originally made from) and can be done at home, but what about the metal parts that compose the mag release? Or duplication of the magwell via being completely milled out of aluminium? We are speaking of a product that is approaching 400 CAD in price, so maybe CNC milling is the way to go? And then of course comes the issue of patent protection. Whether Spuhr's design is patented or not is unknown and if they will be unhappy by their product being duplicated or not is also unknown.

Bolt releases perhaps can be made by forum member CNADNSL8-5? He has experience is bolt release manufacture.
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rambones has his own machine shop and has undertaken Tavor handguard manufacturing, and seems to have am interest in becoming the premier Canadian machined parts/accessories manufacturer.

I have a laundry list of projects to start him on in the new year for my SL8, ACR, and Modern Hunter and Modern Varminter.
 
Did they mention a price for a 30-50 pc order?
Seems like it would be pretty easy to get 2-3 dealers on board, and with a few private guys you should hit that easy.
 
Atlas said:
Did they mention a price for a 30-50 pc order?
Seems like it would be pretty easy to get 2-3 dealers on board, and with a few private guys you should hit that easy.
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New information indicates that Spuhr indeed cannot export the magwell to civilian clients at this time due to Swedish laws. This comes from another official Spuhr dealer.

Does anyone have a magwell that can be used as a sample for locally made reproductions? Or maybe a license can be sought from Spuhr for local manufacture from aluminium? By "local" it really is implied "Canadian".
 
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oenone said:
New information indicates that Spuhr indeed cannot export the magwell to civilian clients at this time due to Swedish laws. This comes from another official Spuhr dealer.

Does anyone have a magwell that can be used as a sample for locally made reproductions? Or maybe a license can be sought from Spuhr for local manufacture from aluminium? By "local" it really is implied "Canadian".
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I am almost positive rambones will have no problems doing this, the question is should it be a Spuhr clone or a new design that resembles an ACR magwell and mag release if possible?

I like the idea of ambidextrous controls, something the sphur did not offer.
 
onetwentyish said:
I am almost positive rambones will have no problems doing this, the question is should it be a Spuhr clone or a new design that resembles an ACR magwell and mag release if possible?

I like the idea of ambidextrous controls, something the sphur did not offer.
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I am pretty sure the Spuhr is in such demand because it was the only ambidextrous magwell. And indeed it is. The NorthEasternArms well released from the left, as does the official HK well. Spuhr has releases on both the left and right hand side. Check the photos on their web page.
 
oenone said:
I am pretty sure the Spuhr is in such demand because it was the only ambidextrous magwell. And indeed it is. The NorthEasternArms well released from the left, as does the official HK well. Spuhr has releases on both the left and right hand side. Check the photos on their web page.
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Hmm. Indeed you are correct, it's been a while since I looked at it. If possible I still prefer the ACR design, it's super simple and looks better in my opinion, not to mention having the 2 rifles controls resemble each other would be great for me since I have both.
 
While I totally understand the desire to run the same magazines in all your 223 semi's, when you consider the cost of the magwell you can buy a few SL8 mags for that price and if you actually compare the magazines the SL8 just like the Swiss Arms mags are a much better magazine than a STANAG pattern magazine. They are more reliable and will last longer.
I had an AR magwell for my last SL8 and after using it for a while went back to the SL8 magwell, I felt the SL8 was not the type of rifle I was going to be draining mags through so three or four was plenty. It's a precision semi auto not a combat assault rifle.

If you do get a group buy going I have a buddy who just bought an SL8 and I'm sure he'll want in on the deal.
 
G36 Pmags also work in the SL8 with small modification.

As said above, their design is better than STANAG pattern mags in function/reliability
 
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