IPSC Revolver Division

[Canuck44]

You must be psychic cause I got my 929 and all the DAA gear ready to go. I had a feeling this would be coming. And by the way, how is this division any less serious than shooting 8 rounds of .45 in classic division. Or is that just a fun run for fudds as well ?

Time will tell if enough folks decide to invest the better part of $1,300 on a new platform. This change makes the 686 and 625 guns instantly obsolete. The risk if it may be considered a risk by some, is there will not be enough folks willing to make the change and the division will simply die.

I wasn't psychic, you were. I really have little interest in shooting a revolver in IPSC. Did it once at a club shoot and quickly decided it wasn't for me. I think I spent more time reloading then I did actually shooting. I do appreciate some will be all over this like fly's after dead meat. I just don't know how many will take the bait. One thing for sure S&W will be happy to see the change.


Take Care

Bob

 

[VanMan]

Thanks, those are from Hogue. I like the stock rubber grips, but my hands get a little sweaty during the summer.

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VanMan the grip on the one on the top and right looks pretty awesome! I haven't shot a revolver in years. threads like this make my bank account cringe ha

 

[euxx]

Actually...54 out of 1094 total shooters.. 4.93% participation
Classic has 92, (the youngest division)
Open 254, (Supposedly super expensive and according to some, impossible to get ammo to compete at these matches at...)
Standard 305.
Production 389.

And Revolver is popular in Europe compared with other areas of the world.

It will definitely be a good show watching to see if the change in division brings more interest in it.
The results are entirely in the hands of the competitors...

Sean, it's almost 5x percetage-wise more than we had at our Nationals. So, are you open to idea of running Revolver event after the Nationals? If hosting section would be willing to go with it...

I recall there was a multigun tournament after 2009 Nationals in Halifax, so idea is not entirely new... Damn, I can't believe I've been around this long already.

 

[Freedom Ventures]

So, are you open to idea of running Revolver event after the Nationals? If hosting section would be willing to go with it...

LOL. Yeah, That ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

If we had extra time to run a Revolver match after the nationals, we'd have extra time to fit more shooters into the nationals and not have the issue we've had the last two years with people not getting into the nationals. That's a far bigger priority.

And - I'm sure some of the open guys would love to shoot the nationals in classic or the production guys would like to give a run at the nationals in standard...and in either of those cases, we'd get more people than letting the match run again in revolver. There isn't enough interest out of the dedicated revolver shooters to show up at matches let alone make special accommodations for them.

The 3-gun in 2009 turned out to be a mistake.

 

[VanMan]

the link to the results from the 2016 Nationals is not working for me https://practiscore.com/results/89c02eaa-18ed-4377-9e26-55aa3673381c/index

Was there really only 2 people competing in Revolver division this year?

LOL. Yeah, That ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

If we had extra time to run a Revolver match after the nationals, we'd have extra time to fit more shooters into the nationals and not have the issue we've had the last two years with people not getting into the nationals. That's a far bigger priority.

And - I'm sure some of the open guys would love to shoot the nationals in classic or the production guys would like to give a run at the nationals in standard...and in either of those cases, we'd get more people than letting the match run again in revolver. There isn't enough interest out of the dedicated revolver shooters to show up at matches let alone make special accommodations for them.

The 3-gun in 2009 turned out to be a mistake.

 

[Freedom Ventures]

the link to the results from the 2016 Nationals is not working for me https://practiscore.com/results/89c02eaa-18ed-4377-9e26-55aa3673381c/index

Was there really only 2 people competing in Revolver division this year?

Just search results for "IPSC Canada"...

https://practiscore.com/results/new/23587

Yes - 2.

2 in 2016, 2 in 2015, 7 in 2014, 5 in 2013, 3 in 2012. It really is dead in Canada.

Maybe this rule change MIGHT give it some life, but it will be up to the guys that want Revolver to make it happen. When Production came out, shooters made the conscious decision to leave another division to compete in it. When Classic came out, shooters made the conscious decision to leave another division to compete in it. Same thing has to happen with Revolver but Revolver has been around forever and it hasn't happened yet - so I wouldn't hold my breath on it happening now.

 

[VanMan]

Thanks for the link. I know of at least one other S&W 929 shooter here in Vancouver that competes in Revolver and he's pretty damned good. If we can get into the 2017 Nationals, I'd shoot revolver

Just search results for "IPSC Canada"...

https://practiscore.com/results/new/23587

Yes - 2.

2 in 2016, 2 in 2015, 7 in 2014, 5 in 2013, 3 in 2012. It really is dead in Canada.

Maybe this rule change MIGHT give it some life, but it will be up to the guys that want Revolver to make it happen. When Production came out, shooters made the conscious decision to leave another division to compete in it. When Classic came out, shooters made the conscious decision to leave another division to compete in it. Same thing has to happen with Revolver but Revolver has been around forever and it hasn't happened yet - so I wouldn't hold my breath on it happening now.

 

[MustangFrank]

Im In. Nothing to lose really. Like the man said, its not like we are competing for new cars or million dollar sponsorships. I figure Ill be into it for 3G once all the dust settles. Plus ammo.

 

[pauls]

Just search results for "IPSC Canada"...

https://practiscore.com/results/new/23587

Yes - 2.

2 in 2016, 2 in 2015, ....

So, for the past 2 years, one could show up, shoot the entire match from the hip, or even weak hand, gun upside down, pulling the trigger with your pinky finger, and still get a podium finish?
Sounds pretty sweet to me.

Easy way to pad the shooting resume.

Think of the conversations at work afterwards
"so, how was your weekend"
"Well, I competed in the Canadian Nationals, shot the match with my pinky finger and came in 3rd...yeah I'm kind of a big deal"

 

[MustangFrank]

Well, the division would not be recognized with only 3 shooters and you would be the second loser so nothing to brag about. Probably a D.Q. for unsafe gun handling. Yep, not so big deal really.

 

[VanMan]

Well, the division would not be recognized with only 3 shooters and you would be the second loser so nothing to brag about. Probably a D.Q. for unsafe gun handling. Yep, not so big deal really.

I think it's a minimum of 5 competitors to be eligible for awards at a qualifier? We gave out an award for revolver at our club matches anyways. I was shooting production back then, didn't seem right as MD to give out an award for revolver and take it too lol

 

[Dmitri_W]

I would love to see nationals as a competition, not a fun shoot. 2 extra spots might not sound like a lot, but I think both spots would have been better utilized without revolver division...

 

[pauls]

Well, the division would not be recognized with only 3 shooters and you would be the second loser so nothing to brag about. Probably a D.Q. for unsafe gun handling. Yep, not so big deal really.

I'll ask you to show me where in the rules it states I can't shoot unsidedown-pinky.
As long as I don't break any safety angles or sweep myself, I can pretty much do anything I want.

And top 3 = top 3, don't you dare take that away from me!

 

[euxx]

If we had extra time to run a Revolver match after the nationals, we'd have extra time to fit more shooters into the nationals and not have the issue we've had the last two years with people not getting into the nationals. That's a far bigger priority.

Unlikely you'd have time to run more people trough the whole match, but there might be time to run some people trough part of the match. Like half a day instead of a full day used to complete Nationals...

And - I'm sure some of the open guys would love to shoot the nationals in classic or the production guys would like to give a run at the nationals in standard...and in either of those cases, we'd get more people than letting the match run again in revolver. There isn't enough interest out of the dedicated revolver shooters to show up at matches let alone make special accommodations for them.

It's not that dedicated shooters don't have interest, it's a chicken and an egg issue. Most of those dedicated shooters have to prioritize other divisions or couldn't get on the match due to limited slots and because none of the sections sent revolver teams.

But opportunity for Open guys to shoot Classic and so on, is exactly the point for running multiple Nationals. Most sections run one or maybe more L3 matches or even some large L2. Call one of them Division Nationals each year. Even if it is just one division each year rotated...

The 3-gun in 2009 turned out to be a mistake.

Please do tell us more.

 

[euxx]

I think it's a minimum of 5 competitors to be eligible for awards at a qualifier? We gave out an award for revolver at our club matches anyways. I was shooting production back then, didn't seem right as MD to give out an award for revolver and take it too lol

It's 10 competitor for a L3 for division to be recognized. See Appendix A2.1

 

[euxx]

Just search results for "IPSC Canada"...

https://practiscore.com/results/new/23587

Yes - 2.

2 in 2016, 2 in 2015, 7 in 2014, 5 in 2013, 3 in 2012. It really is dead in Canada.

More stats from Ontario L3s:

2016 Ontario Provincials - 3
2016 Summer Fun - 7
2015 Ontario Provincials - 5
2015 Summer Fun - 10
2014 Ontario Provincials - 4
2014 Summer Fun - 4
2013 Ontario Provincials / Summer Fun - 7
2012 Ontario Provincials - 6
2012 Summer Fun - 5
2012 Barrie Challenge - 4
2011 Ontario Provincials - 10
2010 Waterloo - 4

 

[MustangFrank]

I think the new rule change will open up a whole new playing field. I have changed divisions in the past to create new challenges, not to end up third out of three. This is a new challenge. A lot of former Canadian champions have done the same. PLEASE Nick K. stay out of revolver class. Its boring..you'd hate it..

 

[455]

If you want to shoot revover try ICORE as an alternative to IPSC, many of you fellow IPSC shooters are doing so.

ICORE is a revolver only game and it is a combination of USPSA, the Bianchi Cup and the Steel Challenge. It is currently being shot at Sharon, Peterborough and Kingston. At typical matches there will be 30-35 shooters and these numbers are growing. Smiths Falls will also be hosting matches next year and 3 other clubs have expressed an interest in starting up at their range.

In August the inaugural regional championships were held in Peterborough and 42 competitors registered for this.

So if you have a wheel gun and you can't get into an IPSC match why not check out the ICORE match she duke as you will be very welcome. Peterborough run indoor matches over the winter and this would give you the opportunity to try out a new game which may even give a welcome alternative to IPSC, even in the summer months.

To find out more about ICORE and to see the match schedule, visit the ICORE Canada website.

http://www.icore-canada.ca

 

[Canuck44]

455 makes a good point. Oddly enough IDPA with stages set at a maximum of 18 is fun to shoot with a revolver. You never have more than two reloads and it is fun to nudge out the pistol boys from time to time. IDPA is a whole different sport when shooting revolvers. For me, the issue with IPSC, while great fun with a pistol, got real old quick when I was spending as much time reloading as I was shooting. I suspect that is why the participation level is so low. Not much different though in IDPA. Might just be a case of revolvers not being of much interest to younger shooters.

Take Care

Bob

 

[tweetyj]

If you want to shoot revover try ICORE as an alternative to IPSC, many of you fellow IPSC shooters are doing so.

ICORE is a revolver only game and it is a combination of USPSA, the Bianchi Cup and the Steel Challenge. It is currently being shot at Sharon, Peterborough and Kingston. At typical matches there will be 30-35 shooters and these numbers are growing. Smiths Falls will also be hosting matches next year and 3 other clubs have expressed an interest in starting up at their range.

In August the inaugural regional championships were held in Peterborough and 42 competitors registered for this.

So if you have a wheel gun and you can't get into an IPSC match why not check out the ICORE match she duke as you will be very welcome. Peterborough run indoor matches over the winter and this would give you the opportunity to try out a new game which may even give a welcome alternative to IPSC, even in the summer months.

To find out more about ICORE and to see the match schedule, visit the ICORE Canada website.

http://www.icore-canada.ca

Do I know you , you sound like a person keeps wanting me to give Icore a try !!!! Are you one of the evil twins ??