USW, KPOS and XMETAL Ammo

Hows the mag compatibility of the USW? Also are there versions with a rail instead of the original optics?
 
Expected retail is going to be $2995.00. There are no options, it is one way and one way only. It comes with the optic, no option for a rail.

It wasn't designed for the civilian market, it's intent was for European LE. It comes with the duty holster for it as well. Spare mags will be available from B&T.

It looks like they will be available sometime after November for order.

Please remember the USW in the video and the pictures that are coming up, are a pre-production prototype. There will be a slightly different option.

The trigger on the USW is fantastic with a very short reset. Accuracy at 100 was outstanding, I was able to easily hit clay pigeons and then finish off the smaller pieces. This is also a testament to the accuracy of the XMetal ammo.

Now, with that being said the 100 accuracy of the Glock in the KPOS was right up there as well. I love the KPOS as it allows me to use a firearm I already own in a carbine/Sub-gun roll.
 
Grumpy,

How's the reliability on your KPOS?

I bought my Glock 17 through Wolverine back in 2005, and am pondering a KPOS stock as an accessory. (I was drooling over the Angstadt Arms guns, but reality set in....and an accessory stock for the G-17 might be a better path for me.)

I've done a bit of inter-web research and there's folks that have complained about the reliability of the KPOS.

I love the look, and am trying to scrape together the coinage to purchase one. (I could do it on my Visa today, but I've been trying to pay the damn bill down!)

NS
 
Hey NS,
Reliability in what regard? I've never had an issue with one, nor have I seen any fail. Now I need to clarify that a little, as I know there have been some problems with folks trying to modify them to work with 34's or 17L's but they just aren't designed for that. Those reliability issues you have read about, have they specified whether they were with a Gen 1 or a Gen 2 version of the KPOS? I'd like to read up a little on that as well, also good to be aware, but from my experience, haven't had a problem. They are in use with government agencies here in CAnada as well.
 
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That thing is beautiful and love that it won't ever be select fire, no worries about reclassification but too rich for my blood sadly.

KPOS seems bulky by comparison.
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
Well the KPOS is bigger but in all fairness you aren't comparing apples to apples with the two.
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I get that. More like comparing a really nice orange to an apple pie baked by and fed to you by Giada De Laurentiis.

No slights intended, the KPOS is a cool piece of kit, that USW is just slick though.
 
NavyShooter said:
Grumpy,

How's the reliability on your KPOS?

I bought my Glock 17 through Wolverine back in 2005, and am pondering a KPOS stock as an accessory. (I was drooling over the Angstadt Arms guns, but reality set in....and an accessory stock for the G-17 might be a better path for me.)

I've done a bit of inter-web research and there's folks that have complained about the reliability of the KPOS.

I love the look, and am trying to scrape together the coinage to purchase one. (I could do it on my Visa today, but I've been trying to pay the damn bill down!)

NS
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Mine came in the mail Monday and I shot it today. It worked flawlessly with a glock 17 - not a single failure in about 200 rounds. I also tested the repeatability of mounting the pistol and the effect on zero. I zeroed a sparc ar, then shot it, took the gun out, put it back in, and shot it. It returned to zero perfectly. I removed and remounted it a second time, and same results. I was extremely pleased.

I owned a B&T tp9 and find the KPOS setup very similar. The guy online who reported reliability problems (short barrelled shepherd) was using a glock 19. The instructions specifically state you have to reverse the teeth that grab the slide as part of the charging handle for the Glock 19. If you don't do this, I imagine you would have reliability problems.

I love the kpos because it gives you a 10 round carbine that you can use as a standalone pistol whenever you want.
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
Hey NS,
Reliability in what regard? I've never had an issue with one, nor have I seen any fail. Now I need to clarify that a little, as I know there have been some problems with folks trying to modify them to work with 34's or 17L's but they just aren't designed for that. Those reliability issues you have read about, have they specified whether they were with a Gen 1 or a Gen 2 version of the KPOS? I'd like to read up a little on that as well, also good to be aware, but from my experience, haven't had a problem. They are in use with government agencies here in CAnada as well.
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Which agencies use the KPOS?
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
Hey NS,
Reliability in what regard? I've never had an issue with one, nor have I seen any fail. Now I need to clarify that a little, as I know there have been some problems with folks trying to modify them to work with 34's or 17L's but they just aren't designed for that. Those reliability issues you have read about, have they specified whether they were with a Gen 1 or a Gen 2 version of the KPOS? I'd like to read up a little on that as well, also good to be aware, but from my experience, haven't had a problem. They are in use with government agencies here in CAnada as well.
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I reviewed the videos and the guy who was complaining about reliability issues was using a G19 with this setup.

He did a comparison between the 'big three' of the pistol chassis systems.

I think that my preference is the smallest of them, which seems to be the KPOS, but I wish I could go hands-on with one before dropping the money on it.

Anyone in the Halifax area have one?

NS
 
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