Question about short barrel.
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I will in fact be surprised if the mare's legs are not restricted by the rcmp as well as a few others in their "victory lap" after the "Goodale gun grab" legislation is proclaimed into Canadian law.
I was aware that mares legs were classed as pistols in the United States which is an exemption of sorts.
Didn't think the matter would be seized upon as it was.
Amazingly at this critical time Canadian gun owners seem to be more interested in American firearms law than the laws in their own country.
Why notwithstanding? They could flip-flop and call it a pistol and make it restricted, but based on their own criteria, OAL does not enter into the classification on this one....as far as I can tell? I could well be wrong though, just can't find any rule.
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Apparently what I read someplace was that because the Mares leg lever action short barreled rifles and the 8.5" and 12" 870's and clones or 12" barrel coachguns need two hands to operate and fire them (especially with any degree of accuracy) plus the fact they are technically just shorter versions of existing long arms so they are not considered handguns or pistols according to the technical letter of the law. This is unlike true handguns or pistols/revolvers which are designed to be easily fired single handed with a decent degree of accuracy.
They occupy a uncommon but still legal gray area as they are not technically handguns and also not technically full long guns, plus they are not semi-auto either so do not have those legally mandated barrel length restrictions. They are more like extra short carbines, sort of like the old short blunderbusses of many years past or the short barreled revolver carbines that were available by colt and now some Italian makers, plus they also are designed for two hands to aim and fire.
They occupy a uncommon but still legal gray area as they are not technically handguns and also not technically full long guns, plus they are not semi-auto either so do not have those legally mandated barrel length restrictions. They are more like extra short carbines, sort of like the old short blunderbusses of many years past or the short barreled revolver carbines that were available by colt and now some Italian makers, plus they also are designed for two hands to aim and fire.
Is it:
(A) A handgun [NO]
(B) Has a barrel length less than 470mm AND is semi-auto [NO]
(C) Can be reduced to less than 660mm [NO]
(D) Specifically prescribed to be a restricted firearm [NO]
Non restricted, by RCMP definition. The part a lot of people miss is that it can leave the factory at less than a 660mm fixed overall length and be NR, but under no circumstance can YOU build one that is sub-660mm and have it be NR. If you build it, you have adapted it to be fired at a length less than 660mm, rule "C" comes into effect, and you have a restricted firearm.
(A) A handgun [NO]
(B) Has a barrel length less than 470mm AND is semi-auto [NO]
(C) Can be reduced to less than 660mm [NO]
(D) Specifically prescribed to be a restricted firearm [NO]
Non restricted, by RCMP definition. The part a lot of people miss is that it can leave the factory at less than a 660mm fixed overall length and be NR, but under no circumstance can YOU build one that is sub-660mm and have it be NR. If you build it, you have adapted it to be fired at a length less than 660mm, rule "C" comes into effect, and you have a restricted firearm.
Yeah that's why Dlask was told to put a full stock on their 8.5 shotguns or it would be restricted, and that's why Canada Ammo has to sell their 8.5 Dominion arms shotguns with full stocks, with pistol grips they are restricted, and both are manufactured that way. And the Canada ammo guy is still pissed about it
