MP marked 1945 Long Branch

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At the last Salmon Arm Gun Show I picked up a No4 Mk1* with an MP stamp on the left side of the receiver. The serial number is verifiable from a Crown Assets Disposal purchasers copy bill of lading dated to Lever Arms, 1968. There is a very good chance I unpacked those rifles and cleaned them up to go into the old Dunsmuir St. store display racks. That was a long time ago but I do remember them and one other order. From there on everything blurs. I unpacked/cleaned/brought up hundreds upon hundreds of No4s.

I have often thought about those rifle and wished I had purchased one of them. The thing is, they were at one hell of a premium for a used No4. If memory serves they were around $60 each at the time and new in box rifles were around half that or less, depending on manufacturer.

This rifle doesn't seem to be special, other than it has a five groove ball burnished barrel, and has been bedded for accuracy. There is one thing about it that bothers me and that is a drilled and tapped hole on the left side of the butt socket about half way down. I went onto Milsurps Knowledge Library and Badger had pics of three rifles there. One of the three had a hole drilled and tapped in exactly the same location as the one on my rifle.

Does anyone here actually know what those holes were drilled for?? I am assuming some sort of target sight but I know the RCMP rifles had No4 and No5 Parker hale sights on their match rifles. Neither of these sights would require such a hole. Maybe for a lanyard ring??? Doubtful.
 
Specifically it's from fitting a Parker Hale type target sight intended for a No1Mk3 to a no4.

Thanks guys I appreciate the answers. Lee Enfield, I looked at different sights for the No1 rifles but nothing that seemed to fit. Mind you it was only on the net so I will have to look again. Do you happen to know which sight it was??

One other question, would anyone know what the "T" stamp on the fore end designates??

This rifle also has some different stamps on the barrel that I haven't seen before, such as an oblong box with a (77/\C)
 
A PH5C mounts using the ejector and rear sight pivot holes. A PH5A can be fitted if a hole is drilled in the butt socket. On a SMLE, this position matched the safety detent spring screw hole. A longer trigger guard screw is also used. There are No. 7 rifles with this extra hole drilled.
With the hole for the PH5A, ball burnished barrel, and bedding job, the rifle was used for target rifle competition, most likely in PRA/DCRA matches.
 
Thanks guys.

Now for a bit of gnashing of the teeth. I sold one of those PH5A sights at a gun show last Spring. I acquired it in a box of sight parts many years ago and never used it. Oh well.

I wonder if the RCMP armorers removed the sights or they just sort of disappeared along the way??? I do recall Lever getting in batches of both No1 and No4 rifles that were fitted with match sights but they were few and far between. I don't remember if any were in this batch of MP marked rifles. Darn, that was close to fifty years ago and the thousands of Lee Enfields of every mark just blur together. My brain is getting cluttered.

Again, thanks for the info.

The fore end has been bedded and the receiver is very tight in its ways. There is a reinforcing bolt between the king screw and mag well which has been covered with some sort of epoxy. No visible cracks though. The underside of the receiver has been cross hatched with a chisel to keep it from moving in the ways and the gap normally found between the wood and butt socket has been completely taken up. It has what appears to be an original "S" marked butt which is conducive to prone shooting. Now I have to finish cleaning it up and put it back together so I can take it to the range and check out how it shoots.

Before I get carried away, I need to take lots of pics.

Thanks again for the great and informative replies.
 
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