L.E Wilson or Redding competition dies

[Franky Sniper]

Wich one is better for long distance precision shooting, the L.E Wilson dies or the Redding competition dies set.
Some told me the Wilson is better and more constancy than the Redding competition.

What is your experience with that?

 

[Ron AKA]

Wich one is better for long distance precision shooting, the L.E Wilson dies or the Redding competition dies set.
Some told me the Wilson is better and more constancy than the Redding competition.
What is your experience with that?

I prefer the Forster Bushing Bump Neck Die over the Redding S die. They are both bushing dies which allows you to adjust your neck tension, and compensate for worked brass or soft brass. However the Forster die will let you do a partial neck resize and bump the shoulder of the case at the same time. I don't believe the Redding can do that. Also the Forster die can still use a expander ball of selectable size. It is located high in the resizing die to minimize any induced runout.

For seating I can also recommend the Forster Ultra Micrometer die.

No experience with the Wilson. I do know some use an Arbor press and say it gives better feel. Little bit of information on them here. Quite a different system, with special dies like the Wilson.

You might want to start out by finding out who makes the dies for your cartridge.

 

[bigedp51]

If you check around you will find that the majority of competitive shooters full length resize their cases.

I prefer the Forster full length benchrest dies with their high mounted floating expander that greatly reduces neck runout.

The sliding sleeve seating dies by Redding and Forster are known for reducing neck runout during bullet seating.

At the Whidden custom die website they tell you that standard full length non-bushing dies produce the least amount of neck runout.

NOTE, the Forster Bushing Bump die does not come with a expander, let alone expanders of different sizes.

Whidden custom dies are the only dies I know of that offers expanders of different diameters.

Bushing vs Non-Bushing Sizer Dies
http://www.whiddengunworks.com/standard-reloading-dies/

"The non-bushing sizer die typically yields more concentric ammo in our experience. It also fully sizes the case neck fully to the shoulder for smoother functioning. Neck tension can only be determined by changing expander balls with the non-bushing die".

Expander Ball Kits
http://www.whiddengunworks.com/product/expander-ball-kits-and-sets/

"The Whidden Gunworks Expander Balls typically allow the shooter the opportunity to adjust the neck tension from .001″ to .005″. The Expander Ball Kit comes with five Expander Balls. Each kit includes an Expander of the chosen caliber and decreases in size by .001″. Example: If an Expander Ball Kit for .243 caliber is ordered, the kit would include Expander Ball sizes .243, .242, .241, .240 and .239."

Bushing dies work best with tight neck chambers and neck turned brass and with standard off the shelf factory rifles and SAAMI chambers they can produce "more" neck runout.

Anytime you reduce the neck diameter of the case more than .005 with a bushing die it is recommended to reduce neck diameter in two steps to prevent inducing neck runout.

My Forster bushing bump die produces more neck runout than my standard full length Forster sizing die.

 

[rl4930]

Have never used the L.e Wilson. I use the redding type s neck dies. I don't bump shoulders unless I need to. I get great concentricity and a huge number of reloads on my lapua brass due to minimal resizing and annealing. I haven't full length sized brass in a few years, I imagine my brass life would suffer quite a bit. I sort by lot number, weight and number of firings. No issues so far. I used to neck turn, now I have no turn neck chambers. I have noticed a little bit of inconsistency in my newest lot of 6.5-284 lapua brass, so I may start skimming the necks. So yeah, redding dies suit me well. Ymmv