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i posted it up in the DCRA rifle sticky but thought i would put it here as well I picked up number 614 will post pics when i have time too busy getting married this weekend
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Be careful with these rifles. I started out with one two months ago and my third just showed up today.
 
yes i know they are addictive I have 3 7.62 DCRA 1 303 DCRA and one service rifle B smle ...they are all tack drivers and all minty
 
The 303 DCRA rifles don't seem to have the following that the 7.62 rifles get. I have on also. I also have the 7.62 rifles
also. Are there less 303 rifles around and more 7.62 rifles?
 
can14 said:
The 303 DCRA rifles don't seem to have the following that the 7.62 rifles get. I have on also. I also have the 7.62 rifles
also. Are there less 303 rifles around and more 7.62 rifles?
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Lots of 303 target rifles around.

They just don't have the distinctive markings which the 7.62 guns have, so many owners don't have a clue what the guns actually are.
 
Lee Enfield said:
Lots of 303 target rifles around.

They just don't have the distinctive markings which the 7.62 guns have, so many owners don't have a clue what the guns actually are.
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For the uneducated among us (me), how does one tell a DCRA .303 rifle from any other?
 
I don't know what a DCRA .303 rifle is.
One used in DCRA/PRA competition?
At a minimum, there could be a precision target rear sight, and a center swivel. This for SR(b) shooting. For SR(a), neither of these add-ons would be present.
Bedding might be improved. Barrel might be ball burnished. There could be marks indicating that a particular business did enhancements. Forend could be a custom, in issue configuration. A SMLE might have another barrel band added behind the nosecap, and could have all sorts of weird and wonderful forend bedding.
Often PH, AJP, Central, Swenson, etc. sights get added to rifles, even if the rifle has never been used in competition.
Provenance may be the best indicator. And if you can find out who used the rifle, the records for their shooting will have survived.
 
The term DCRA rifle is rather non-specific and perhaps a bad one to use. Perhaps we need to distinguish between the Lee Enfield rifles specifically converted to 7.62 for target use and carrying official conversion marks as opposed to rifles that were used in DCRA competitions (which may or may not include above)
 
I suppose my question should have been were any .303 Lee-Enfield rifles ever officially converted to target sights specifically for DCRA or did target shooters just convert their own rifles to use in competitions. The reason I ask is I just purchased a very lovely No.4mk2 with beautiful Parker hale sights (PH4) and I was wondering if there was any way to determine where or if this was used in a DCRA competition. I have three 7.62 conversions so I know about the conversion numbers but didn't know if anything like that existed before they stopped using .303.
Sorry for the hijack of this thread, I guess I just got bored while waiting for pictures. I hope the wedding went well and the whole weekend was a raging success.
 
The DCRA was, and is, an organization. Rifles were set up for DCRA/PRA shooting. Doesn't mean that the DCRA did it.
The DCRA arranged for rifles to be converted to 7.62 by CAL in the early 60s. Rifles were sent in by their owners/holders for conversion. Could be private or public property.
Your British Mk. II rifle may have been used for competition in Canada or elsewhere. Or it may have had the adjustable sight added, as a superior piece of sighting equipment. The PH4 sight is the earliest target sight designed specifically for the No. 4 rifle, and is one of the least common.
 
I have some British 7.62x51 no4 rifles that have 308 stamped on the receiver. I have 303 no4s with the tgt sights
with stock numbers and one has a tack on the side. It shoots very well.
 
mcminn said:
For the uneducated among us (me), how does one tell a DCRA .303 rifle from any other?
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SR(a) or SR(b)?

I look for centre bedding, varnish, accurizer markings, aftermarket barrels and odd/incorrect sights.

Often "Fulton's of Bisley", AGP, Parker Hale, or various (sometimes Canadian) other accurizer will be stamped on the receiver ring, or sometimes the Knox form or butt stock.

Look in the mag well for signs of bedding, check the in-letting around the action for even spacing.
 

Enfield No4 Rifle Magazines, Sterling 7.62x51 magazine on left Enfield contract 7.62x51 with tab on the right 1965
 
The rifles converted to 7.62 under the 1960s DCRA program were not fitted with 7.62 magazines. The rifles were used for slow fire deliberate prone competition, single loaded. Of course, 7.62 magazines have been added, long after the rifles were retired from match use.
 
yes that is correct but some of the guys I know who used these rifle in the DCRA competitions didnt like to fumble with the empty shells that did not eject the mag made it easy to shoot given some of the timed shoots a couple guys i know used to use them in a mad minute competition they used to have ...it is nice to have both mags available....
P.S. i still need the ejector to use the stirling mag
 
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