Barnes .224 TTSX or TSX for yotes?

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I'm about to grab a new to me 223, wondering if any of your guys shoot Barnes bullets for Yote hunting?

I'm not interested in explosive varmint bullets so any other recommendations are also welcome.
 
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freddyfour said:
I'm about to grab a new to me 223, wondering if any of your guys shoot Barnes bullets for Yote hunting?

I'm not interested in explosive varmint bullets so any other recommendations are also welcome.
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Am also interested. I just bought a box of 53 grain TSX because they were there on the shelf lol.
I am working up a load for them this weekend.

I have a feeling they'll be a thru and thru on coyotes though.
 
If you have a fast twist barrel try the 60 grain Partitions... they expand nicely with a lot of energy but are not explosive.
 
Yea if looking for a stout .224 bullet I like Hoyt's pick. Or the 64gr bonded base Nosler protected point. BCs suffer severely on each but they'll kill better than TSXs on light animals. Something that fragments is still a better choice for things that are small (under 100lbs) and that you're not eating. Of course they'll all die to TSXs too just not as impressively. There's the 70gr Hornady GMX mono too if you have the twist rate for it, good BC .350. Would be a nice deer / coyote dual purpose load.
 
Ardent said:
Yea if looking for a stout .224 bullet I like Hoyt's pick. Or the 64gr bonded base Nosler protected point. BCs suffer severely on each but they'll kill better than TSXs on light animals. Something that fragments is still a better choice for things that are small (under 100lbs) and that you're not eating. Of course they'll all die to TSXs too just not as impressively. There's the 70gr Hornady GMX mono too if you have the twist rate for it, good BC .350. Would be a nice deer / coyote dual purpose load.
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I wonder why you researched the .224" 70 GMX???
 
Ardent said:
Yea if looking for a stout .224 bullet I like Hoyt's pick. Or the 64gr bonded base Nosler protected point. BCs suffer severely on each but they'll kill better than TSXs on light animals. Something that fragments is still a better choice for things that are small (under 100lbs) and that you're not eating. Of course they'll all die to TSXs too just not as impressively. There's the 70gr Hornady GMX mono too if you have the twist rate for it, good BC .350. Would be a nice deer / coyote dual purpose load.
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Would you find that say a 50 VG would drop a coyote much quicker than the TSX?

I have a 1-9 twist. I bought the 53 TSX more for shooting beavers than coyotes but I'm looking for an all around bullet that'll do both very well. Shots out to 200 yards so they need to still do the trick at slightly lower speeds.
 
thebaron said:
Would you find that say a 50 VG would drop a coyote much quicker than the TSX?

I have a 1-9 twist. I bought the 53 TSX more for shooting beavers than coyotes but I'm looking for an all around bullet that'll do both very well. Shots out to 200 yards so they need to still do the trick at slightly lower speeds.
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I personally avoid mono's on light game at lower speeds... that is the point where lightly framed cup & core bullets really shine.
 
Buy the cheapest bullet that shoots straight, hornady v max , Sierra etc over 50 gr works for me the "better" bullets can just poke a hole if they don't hit in the right spot . I like the one that blow up
 
Keithjohn said:
Buy the cheapest bullet that shoots straight, hornady v max , Sierra etc over 50 gr works for me the "better" bullets can just poke a hole if they don't hit in the right spot . I like the one that blow up
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He is looking a bullet that behaves like a big game bullet, not an explosive varmint bullet.

OP, if I were you I would look at the Hornady 50/55 SP's for your cirteria.
 
hoytcanon said:
He is looking a bullet that behaves like a big game bullet, not an explosive varmint bullet.

OP, if I were you I would look at the Hornady 50/55 SP's for your cirteria.
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Correct, I don't want to explode the one side of the pelts.

It's a Mini 14 I'm picking up, thought I would try a semi this winter, looks like the rate of twist is 1/9 for them. How heavy can I go for a 1/9? Also understand that I will have length issue with the mags I assume.
 
freddyfour said:
Correct, I don't want to explode the one side of the pelts.

It's a Mini 14 I'm picking up, thought I would try a semi this winter, looks like the rate of twist is 1/9 for them. How heavy can I go for a 1/9? Also understand that I will have length issue with the mags I assume.
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1/9 twist should be good up 70 gr.... They were in my mini mauser 1/9......
 
freddyfour said:
Correct, I don't want to explode the one side of the pelts.

It's a Mini 14 I'm picking up, thought I would try a semi this winter, looks like the rate of twist is 1/9 for them. How heavy can I go for a 1/9? Also understand that I will have length issue with the mags I assume.
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The Hornady 68 BTHP was my "goto" in my 9 twist M77 .223... it would not fly in my 12 twist 22/250 though...
 
Ardent said:
Yea if looking for a stout .224 bullet I like Hoyt's pick. Or the 64gr bonded base Nosler protected point. BCs suffer severely on each but they'll kill better than TSXs on light animals. Something that fragments is still a better choice for things that are small (under 100lbs) and that you're not eating. Of course they'll all die to TSXs too just not as impressively. There's the 70gr Hornady GMX mono too if you have the twist rate for it, good BC .350. Would be a nice deer / coyote dual purpose load.
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Deer with a 223......cou::p

Not to worried about BC, won't be a long range gun by any means. Even if deer is on the table it would probably be 100-150yrds at most.
 
I wouldn't run out and drop the cost of Barnes TSX and TTSX or Nosler Partitions for coyotes, almost any 55 grain soft point if it shoots well will give you what you're looking for. Hornady and Sierra would be my preferred.
As to how heavy will a 1-9 stabilize that will very a little gun to gun and profile will play a factor. 70-75 grain may stabilize but you'll probably be served just as well for your mini 14 with bullets between 55-69 grains.
 
freddyfour said:
Deer with a 223......cou::p

Not to worried about BC, won't be a long range gun by any means. Even if deer is on the table it would probably be 100-150yrds at most.
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There is sorta a reason almost all the guys that shoot a lot of fur use a "varmint" bullet. Maybe there is something to it.

I have personally taken a couple deer with 50 and 55 grain cup and core bullets, and the terminal results were certainly NOT what I would be led to believe on the interwebs. Have been involved in several others taken with same. Penetration has been rather more than the "explodes under the skin" repeaters would have you think.

My read on the experiences of others with the TSX/TTSX bullets is that when they work OK you get a pass through with a bigger hole on the far side, when they don't work, they may as well have been cheap surplus FMJ.
Personally, unless there was an abiding reason to do so, I would not bother to spend the extra money.

Cheers
Trev
 
Hey Trev, thanks for your input. I have zero experience with .224 bullets, my cabinet goes from 22LR to 260 Rem and up. Do you not find the varmint bullets like VMAX explode the back side of the pelts?
 
freddyfour said:
Hey Trev, thanks for your input. I have zero experience with .224 bullets, my cabinet goes from 22LR to 260 Rem and up. Do you not find the varmint bullets like VMAX explode the back side of the pelts?
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I shoot 'em to kill 'em, not to skin 'em.

Couldn't tell ya.

Seems to be a pretty common conversation among the fur shooters though, looking to find the balance between maximum impact and minimum time spent sewing up holes.

Keep running in to posts where guys have had inconsistent results with the TSX/TTSX type bullets. Most guys seem happy, then you get the guys that spent hours chasing down deer that had a solid hit that produced a small hole all the way through.
Since I am not so worried about lead, I am not that enthused about spending more money on bullets that will leave me wondering, each time I shoot one. I don"t load to wring the nuts of my cartridges, so the stuff I have been using, has served my needs pretty well.

Sorry I can't give you any better answer than that.

Cheers
Trev
 
If you want a hunting style bullet give the Hdy 60gr sp a look . there lazer straight from my 1/9 stevens 200 seated on benchmark powder .
 
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