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It is a rumour!!!!! But in my gut I get the feeling it's true. Why else would the rcmp do what they did when 4 months ago wolverine had just sold a fresh batch no,problems same guns and the cops know they are the same. I wonder what John really thinks is going on.
John tell us what you think the cops are doing.
 
Kingjenky said:
It is a rumour!!!!! But in my gut I get the feeling it's true. Why else would the rcmp do what they did when 4 months ago wolverine had just sold a fresh batch no,problems same guns and the cops know they are the same. I wonder what John really thinks is going on.
John tell us what you think the cops are doing.
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Exactly!
 
We are wasting our time #####ing to wolverine, this wasn't their issue, firearms have a FRT # & Wolverine probably had an importation certificate to get them by the CBSA, they have done their legal due diligence.

Does anyone have the contact info for the Manitoba CFO?
People in on the pre-sale can call, fax, mail & email them ad nauseam asking why almost 3/4 million dollars retail of their legal property is being held in limbo by the government.
Firearm or cash settlement by Christmas is acceptable, maybe time to start a 300 person + retailer class action suit? Not big dollars or a lot of people to justify it but it may make news.

Lets start directing all this effort where its needed.

Anyone else have something productive to add?
 
The RCMP will most likely confirm these as non restricted because parliament is adjourned for the next two months so no order in council to make these prohibs, RCMP can not reclassify anymore since C-42, just a pain in the ass!!
 
nobletrade said:
We are wasting our time #####ing to wolverine, this wasn't their issue, firearms have a FRT # & Wolverine probably had an importation certificate to get them by the CBSA, they have done their legal due diligence.

Does anyone have the contact info for the Manitoba CFO?
People in on the pre-sale can call, fax, mail & email them ad nauseam asking why almost 3/4 million dollars retail of their legal property is being held in limbo by the government.
Firearm or cash settlement by Christmas is acceptable, maybe time to start a 300 person + retailer class action suit? Not big dollars or a lot of people to justify it but it may make news.

Lets start directing all this effort where its needed.

Anyone else have something productive to add?
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I don't think anyone is #####ing to wolverine. I know this is out of johns hands. I'm just discussing how I feel the rcmp is not gonna let these be sold. I don't have facts to bass my feelings on aside from what I've seen them do in the past 2 -3 years I've been paying attention, the 10/22 mag ordeal is a good example. I am curious what John really believes! And hope the rumours "Ottawa" puts out are just that. I definitely would not want johns job and feel dealing with the #### he does to keep his business going is more than I could take.
Thanks to John for what him and others in the Canadian firearms business do !!!!
 
Kingjenky said:
And hope the rumours "Ottawa" puts out are just that.
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Ottawa is working for Libs. Recently he tried to organize a "preventative" protest just for kicks and giggles. Mainly to test how "militant" Canadian firearm owners are.

Predictably that failed, so now LPC knows, no matter what they do, gun owners will do nothing.
 
BlackVoid said:
Ottawa is working for Libs. Recently he tried to organize a "preventative" protest just for kicks and giggles. Mainly to test how "militant" Canadian firearm owners are.

Predictably that failed, so now LPC knows, no matter what they do, gun owners will do nothing.
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Proof of this? I am very on the fence about Ottawa I'm just having a hard time believing he's not a lib troll.
He conveniently showed up just after the turd won the election.
 
I think he is genuine his name is Jake Wright he works for the hill times and has himself shooting guns on his youtube channel, also posts gun stuff on Facebook.
 
lazare said:
I think he is genuine his name is Jake Wright he works for the hill times and has himself shooting guns on his youtube channel, also posts gun stuff on Facebook.
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This means nothing any lib can get a gun and go to the range just for show.

Liberals lie!
 
do you really believe that he would go through all the pain and trouble of getting a pal and faking a hobby just for kicks??? plus some oh his videos date back to 2012 and before, way too many conspiracy theories!!!
 
lazare said:
do you really believe that he would go through all the pain and trouble of getting a pal and faking a hobby just for kicks??? plus some oh his videos date back to 2012 and before, way too many conspiracy theories!!!
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Yup sure do its not that hard to get a pal.
 
I would never trust Ottawa I believe he is getting fooled by his lib friends but I doubt he is a liberal lover himself, we should be thankful we have someone on the inside better know before you get f***ed in the ass.
 
Kingjenky said:
I don't think anyone is #####ing to wolverine. I know this is out of johns hands. I'm just discussing how I feel the rcmp is not gonna let these be sold. I don't have facts to bass my feelings on aside from what I've seen them do in the past 2 -3 years I've been paying attention, the 10/22 mag ordeal is a good example. I am curious what John really believes! And hope the rumours "Ottawa" puts out are just that. I definitely would not want johns job and feel dealing with the #### he does to keep his business going is more than I could take.
Thanks to John for what him and others in the Canadian firearms business do !!!!
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We are all #####ing to Wolverine, as he stated he wants these gone more than anybody, he's left holding the bag at the mercy of the CFO.
My point was that we're barking up the wrong tree.
This thread has aprox 156 posts & 38,447 views, because its easy to do. What if we were to direct that energy towards the CFO to get some answers?
As to whether the RCMP is going to let them be sold, its already happened. Those who were in early on the sale have already had their credit cards charged. Wolverine is sitting on their property at the request of the CFO.
Being in the firearms industry he has no choice but to comply.
Wolverine had a "request to stop retail distribution" which they have done. Product they have been paid for belongs to someone else, no?
Should the owners get it together & ask the CFO to have their property sent?
 
I would say that every single person who has pre-purchased one of these should be bombarding the CFO demanding that their non restricted rifles be released. This is pure BS - the CZ858 was reclassified as non-restricted and the Conservatives put in place a law that prevents them from ever being reclassified again. The RCMP has ZERO basis for holding these.
 
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