Barnes .224 TTSX or TSX for yotes?

freddyfour said:
Correct, I don't want to explode the one side of the pelts.

It's a Mini 14 I'm picking up, thought I would try a semi this winter, looks like the rate of twist is 1/9 for them. How heavy can I go for a 1/9? Also understand that I will have length issue with the mags I assume.
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I shot the 75 gr Hornady in my 1/9. You really have to try and see how heavy that barrel can go. Mine wouldn't stabilize the 75 gr Amax.( a mod 10 fcpk in 223)

They seem to get some "gone" past about 150 or 200 with things like tsx and sierra matchkings, not many dead right there.

Graders expect bullet holes. They also expect them sewn properly. They are extremely hard to skin and or sell until you anchor them first. Vmax is popular for a reason.
 
hoytcanon said:
If you have a fast twist barrel try the 60 grain Partitions... they expand nicely with a lot of energy but are not explosive.
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I agree with the above and will also add that the nosler ballistic tip varmint bullets have been very good to me as well...... they are not designed to fragment, just to expand very rapidly......
 
freddyfour said:
That maybe that is more in line with what I'm looking for? May just use some regular old cup and core bullets as well.
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No problem with that either....... many coyote fell to my 799 when I didn't reload and used the Winchester white box stuff....... I do find the nosler bt varmint flattens them quicker though.......
 
Superbrad said:
I agree with the above and will also add that the nosler ballistic tip varmint bullets have been very good to me as well...... they are not designed to fragment, just to expand very rapidly......
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+1 on the Nosler BT's. I've lost count of the number of coyote's I've shot with a .222 Rem pushing a 40 grain BT just under 3600 fps. Tiny hole going in, never a hole coming out. While the number I've shot with that load is beyond easy memory to tally, I'm quite clear on the number of 'votes I've lost or wounded with that load: zero. I know some would say the cartridge and bullet are on the light side for the intended purpose, but it's nevertheless been my go-to coyote combo for 20 years.
 
I shot a coyote with my 25/06 with the tsx. It made it well over a 100 yards. No expansion. I'm not a fan of tsx.
Cup and core bullet will b fine. Vmax work great on coyotes
 
freddyfour said:
That maybe that is more in line with what I'm looking for? May just use some regular old cup and core bullets as well.
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I also like with the Nosler BT 50 gr in my 22-250. However, I really like the Winchester 45 grain factory loads. Drops coyotes in their tracks and minimal pelt damage.
BTW I don't believe there is a "perfect " coyote bullet when hunting for fur. Be prepared to do some sewing from time to time.
 
Maybe try a Sierra 63 gr semi point. To me they seem like a good compromise if you don't want super high velocity grenading bullets. They also seem to shoot really well In every gun I've tried them in.
 
savagelh said:
Maybe try a Sierra 63 gr semi point. To me they seem like a good compromise if you don't want super high velocity grenading bullets. They also seem to shoot really well In every gun I've tried them in.
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Funny you should say that, I just got a couple boys of them in the mail with my dies this week. From what I have read it's a decent bullet.
 
sierra and hornady both made a "tough" and a "soft" sp style bullet. the tough ones have a good reputation on fur. they usually exit but the exit is generally very manageable. they also do better on bad angles than the v-max style. the real soft bullets like v-max, blitzking and varmagadion can splash. ive seen it. lots of guys go to the 60 gr to deal with the splash frequency. the nosler bt does not splash. often with the 50 and 55 gr bt you will get a tiny exit where the heavy base exits. the 52 gr match bullets have a great reputation also if driven fast enough, usually 22-250 and not 223.

the most common coyote bullets among serious 22 cal pelt hunters would have to be the 50/55 gr nosler bt with the 50 being more common and the sierra 55 gr gameking sp #1365 which is a sierra "tough" sp with a boattail. they also make the tough sp in the varminter line but its a flat base.
 
freddyfour said:
Hey Trev, thanks for your input. I have zero experience with .224 bullets, my cabinet goes from 22LR to 260 Rem and up. Do you not find the varmint bullets like VMAX explode the back side of the pelts?
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I've shot about 50 coyotes with 53gr V-Max @3200 or so from my .223 and only had a couple of big exit holes. Most are no exit, incredible internal damage DRT's. I do not get the same results with 87gr V-Max @3100 from my .243 however, those usually blow them right up with huge offside damage.
 
Right now Im shooting the 69gr TMK's for coyotes and so far Im liking the the best for what Ive shot so far in my 9twist. I think they are a mix inbetween explosive and a deer bullet, kind of what your looking for. In my 223 Ive only shot the 36gr Vgren, 53gr Vmax, 65gr Gking and now the 69's. The first two had acouple explosive entrance wounds and the 65's had a few pass throughs, but so far these 69's havent had any of those two bad traits in a bullet. I havent shot a big pile of yotes yet with these new bullets, but I have found in the past the its been atleast 1 in 4 that have turned out not so good with the other bullets in the past.

Hope this helps with your decision. Also hope this is understandable as the rum and coke is a flowin. :) cheers
 
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