Barrel Length Opinion
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Building a 6 pound rifle is a lot like building a 500hp 350 CI V8. It's pretty easy to get 2/3's of the way there, but not so easy to get the rest of the way.
It's also really easy to find out who's done it, who's tried it, and those that have done neither, but just like to talk like they have.
R.
Chuck, if you don't think anything that I have posted so far doesn't contain substance, than I suggest you either stop reading it, educate yourself better, or have your comprehension levels tested, because all you are showing here, is lack of substance, and experience.
R.
And once again you fade into a foggy mist of obscurity.
As opposed to your lack of substance and experience?
Take it to PMs, Chuck, it's really all you have left, and this thread and it's participants deserve better than you.
R.
I never professed to be a "mountain hunter," quite the opposite, I have been pretty clear that as a flat-lander, I don't give a "rats-azz" about weight... but if you adopt an "ultralight" philosophy, it only makes sense to apply it across the board... one ounce off the muzzle, two ounces off the rings, four ounces off the scope, ten ounces off the stock, 10 ounces of the boots, 16 ounces off the pack, 16 ounces off the cooking gear, 20 ounces off the food, 30 ounces off the clothing, AND 120+ ounces off your fat azz... I think you'll notice that.
Jesus Chuck..... why do you have to be so damn greasy all the time?......
You don't have to be sir Edmund Hillary to know every ounce counts when lugging gear....... Even my limited experience hunting mountains made me wish I had trimmed a few pounds from my gear...... hell, I do timberwolf hunts on snowshoes that go for days and miles and even those left me wishing I had a lighter rifle...... in fact, I bought a compact in .243 specifically for the purpose.....
As Hoyt said, if you are adopting the every ounce counts philosophy then why wouldn't you want to shed a few ounces off the rifle as long as it performed well?......
But since you want to taylor the discussion to your needs and speak only of the two inches of barrel, OP wants a sub six pound rifle and he is going to have to find those last ounces from somewhere...... in 7-08, he would lose less than 70 fps and he that much closer to his goal..... Also, while 2-3 ounces doesn't feel like much in the palm of your hand, put it at the very end of what you are carrying and it sure feels like more......
You don't have to be sir Edmund Hillary to know every ounce counts when lugging gear....... Even my limited experience hunting mountains made me wish I had trimmed a few pounds from my gear...... hell, I do timberwolf hunts on snowshoes that go for days and miles and even those left me wishing I had a lighter rifle...... in fact, I bought a compact in .243 specifically for the purpose.....
As Hoyt said, if you are adopting the every ounce counts philosophy then why wouldn't you want to shed a few ounces off the rifle as long as it performed well?......
But since you want to taylor the discussion to your needs and speak only of the two inches of barrel, OP wants a sub six pound rifle and he is going to have to find those last ounces from somewhere...... in 7-08, he would lose less than 70 fps and he that much closer to his goal..... Also, while 2-3 ounces doesn't feel like much in the palm of your hand, put it at the very end of what you are carrying and it sure feels like more......
we have to hear more about this. Did you recover the bullet stuck in the skull?
Despite what some here claim, I have owned dozens of rifles. Many, many of them custom. They have run the gamut from sub six pounds to over twelve. They have had barrels from 18" to 26". I have built for weight. I KNOW how this works. IMO, when you are starting to cut barrels on 700's to make weight you are on a fools errand. Balance will likely suffer. I don't like them. That is my opinion. I think, with what is available today, I would start with the receiver.
I see you are entertaining the "d!ck measuring" process on this and the other thread... lame, but ok... your the "Hoss" Chuck... nobody else has experience or a valid perspective on these subjects, because you KNOW the truth.
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Geez...are you sure we want to hear more about this?
Hoyt, you can't have it both ways. I show or say nothing and I'm told I have no experience. So I give background and then get your jealous abuse. What do you want?
Jealous? No, Chuck... if you care to go back over 10,000 posts, I am certain that you can compile a more impressive pictoral array than the one you have presented... the point is that it was offered up conversationally, not in some childish attempt to validate yourself... your opinion and my opinion stand for just that... our "opinions"... and you know what they say about opinions...
P.S - I am not challenging your experience. Or anyone else's... as always, just offering up an opinion, I am quite open to you not agreeing... but it would appear to me that on both thread's we are in fact, agreeing.
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Chuck, I will actually jump in and say that I am certainly envious..... not jealous, as that would infer that I have some kind of animosity towards you, which I do not....... I enjoyed what limited mountain hunting I did, but growing up in Quebec and Ontario in a less than affluent family did not allow me much travel and adventure..... and there are no real mountains around here, so the few hunts I did were the few I could afford over time.....
I respect your experience with rifles, mountain hunting etc...... but it doesn't mean you have cornered the market and you are the only one entitled to an opinion.... it's a discussion board and anyone can feel free to weigh my opinion and experience versus my advice.... and feel free to ask my level of experience in making a reccomendation......
If CFBM-I, who's trophy room we have all seen, and who speaks of doing everything to shave weight off for mountain hunting were to come in here and express an opinion different than yours, would that automatically make you wrong?...... should he then scorn you and challenge you and belittle your opinion as he has more experience than you as you do to others?......
I respect your experience with rifles, mountain hunting etc...... but it doesn't mean you have cornered the market and you are the only one entitled to an opinion.... it's a discussion board and anyone can feel free to weigh my opinion and experience versus my advice.... and feel free to ask my level of experience in making a reccomendation......
If CFBM-I, who's trophy room we have all seen, and who speaks of doing everything to shave weight off for mountain hunting were to come in here and express an opinion different than yours, would that automatically make you wrong?...... should he then scorn you and challenge you and belittle your opinion as he has more experience than you as you do to others?......
No problem other than you need to apply that same logic when you are the one with more experience....
Oddly, yourself, Hoyt and Rman all initially agreed that 22" would be best with me being the odd man out...... so not sure where any of the chest puffing comes from?...... I didn't see anyone challenge your experience here, but I may be wrong (wouldn't be the first time)......
Didn't we all agree with rman being the odd man out in that one?..... lol
Seems to me the "system of opinions" works just fine...... lol
