Fidel Castro rifle?

A museum in Havana shows a lot of sporters. Interesting that he got guns from all that would support them, he collected all from the people. After getting into power he banned the people from gun ownership. Sound familiar ?
 
A museum in Havana shows a lot of sporters. Interesting that he got guns from all that would support them, he collected all from the people. After getting into power he banned the people from gun ownership. Sound familiar ?

Think those were confiscated from civilians. Walked by there, but no time to stop, damnit. :( Lots of guns at the Che memorial to be seen as well, including what appears to be a shop built SMG. The display at the Santa Clara train attack has some neat stuff, including a Cristobal carbine. Gotta be a pile of Czeck model 52s hidden somewhere in the caves there.

Grizz
 
Funny how a question about a particular rifle that happened to be owned by Castro results in responses from rec-room historians on the Cuban revolution but on the milsurp forum whenever anyone mentions an MG43, a G41, Mauser rifles or Walther, Luger or PPK pistols all of which were used by a regime responsible for the death of millions of people, it's all "ooh ahh, what a cool gun" but silent on the politics.
 
Cause if you are on the milsurp forum you've already beat the topic to death and are conversing with like minded people. I'm not saying right or wrong either way.
 
Batista and those who preceded him weren't much better, probably worse, torture and execution was their stock in trade. Netflix has a good series on the history of Cuba and how Castro came to power.
But at least the Cuban Peso was on par with the American Dollar but not worth a pinch of Coon crap after the revolution....so how did the peoples lives improve?......Harold
 
Funny how a question about a particular rifle that happened to be owned by Castro results in responses from rec-room historians on the Cuban revolution but on the milsurp forum whenever anyone mentions an MG43, a G41, Mauser rifles or Walther, Luger or PPK pistols all of which were used by a regime responsible for the death of millions of people, it's all "ooh ahh, what a cool gun" but silent on the politics.

There's more of a tendency to separate the "Tool" from the "Tradesman" in the milsurp forum. A certain understanding that war is a grisly, though sometimes necessary, business. Keeps the conversation focused on the tools of the trade.

At the same time, threads get locked in there on a regular basis, and some of the threads get highly trimmed by moderators.

But back on topic.

Interesting conversation over at gunboards about the double trigger scoped hunting rifle.

The conversation starts with speculation that it's a Husqvarna, but quickly moves away from there. Most likely a higher end custom rifle, not something mass produced. A double trigger rifle with a good quality scope would have been a very pricey item of the day, not for the Hoi Poloi. This would have been a "Gentleman Hunter's" gun.

Rumours that it was one of Hemmingway's custom guns. Possible FN.
 
Batista and those who preceded him weren't much better, probably worse, torture and execution was their stock in trade. Netflix has a good series on the history of Cuba and how Castro came to power.
But at least the Cuban Peso was on par with the American Dollar but not worth a pinch of Coon crap after the revolution....so how did the peoples lives improve?......Harold

Cuban people's lives have always been ####. Never mattered who held power. The usual Latin American story.

Grizz
 
The Russian revolutionary leader Lenin was a hunter all his life....birds mostly.....yet during the revolution his Bolsheviks executed without trial anyone found in possession of a sporting gun. Apparently ownership of a hunting gun was enough to confirm that one was a member of the decadent bourgeoisie and an enemy of the proletariat.
 
The Russian revolutionary leader Lenin was a hunter all his life....birds mostly.....yet during the revolution his Bolsheviks executed without trial anyone found in possession of a sporting gun. Apparently ownership of a hunting gun was enough to confirm that one was a member of the decadent bourgeoisie and an enemy of the proletariat.

i do not think they needed an excuse to mass kill people .....
 
I still can't believe how much he looks like Trudeau junior, the way his mom was back then I am sure Fidel was the father.

Fidel loved his rifles there's a museum in Cuba showing his collection

Here's a pic from 1957 looks like a Mauser 98 possibly a Husqvarna? with a double set trigger

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But at least the Cuban Peso was on par with the American Dollar but not worth a pinch of Coon crap after the revolution....so how did the peoples lives improve?......Harold



It's not heaven on earth but before 1959 the official literacy rate for Cuba was between 60% and 76%, largely because of lack of education access in rural areas and a lack of instructors.

According to the World Bank, Cuba is the only country in Latin America and the Caribbean to have a high quality education system.


Cuba is internationally recognized for its success in the fields of education and health, with social services that exceeds those of most developing countries and, in certain sectors, are comparable to those of the developed nations. Since the Cuban Revolution in 1959 and the establishment of a communist one-party government, the country has created a social system that ensures universal access to education and health services, provided by the state. This model has helped Cuba to achieve universal literacy, eradicate certain diseases and provide universal access to safe drinking water and basic public sanitation. Cuba now has one of the region’s lowest infant mortality rates and longest life expectancies.

A review of social indicators in Cuba reveals an almost continuous improvement from 1960 to 1980. Several major indices, such as life expectancy and infant mortality rates, have continued to improve even during the country’s economic crisis of the 1990s [...]. Today, the social performance of Cuba is one of the best in the developing world, a fact well documented by many international bodies including the World Health Organization, the United Nations Program for Development and other UN agencies as well as the World Bank. [...] Cuba outperforms both Latin American and Caribbean as well as many other middle-income countries in the most important indices of education, public health and hygiene.
 
The Russian revolutionary leader Lenin was a hunter all his life....birds mostly.....yet during the revolution his Bolsheviks executed without trial anyone found in possession of a sporting gun. Apparently ownership of a hunting gun was enough to confirm that one was a member of the decadent bourgeoisie and an enemy of the proletariat.

So was Stalin, when he took time off from murdering his countrymen. :d

Grizz
 
But at least the Cuban Peso was on par with the American Dollar but not worth a pinch of Coon crap after the revolution....so how did the peoples lives improve?......Harold



It's not heaven on earth but before 1959 the official literacy rate for Cuba was between 60% and 76%, largely because of lack of education access in rural areas and a lack of instructors.

According to the World Bank, Cuba is the only country in Latin America and the Caribbean to have a high quality education system.


Cuba is internationally recognized for its success in the fields of education and health, with social services that exceeds those of most developing countries and, in certain sectors, are comparable to those of the developed nations. Since the Cuban Revolution in 1959 and the establishment of a communist one-party government, the country has created a social system that ensures universal access to education and health services, provided by the state. This model has helped Cuba to achieve universal literacy, eradicate certain diseases and provide universal access to safe drinking water and basic public sanitation. Cuba now has one of the region’s lowest infant mortality rates and longest life expectancies.

A review of social indicators in Cuba reveals an almost continuous improvement from 1960 to 1980. Several major indices, such as life expectancy and infant mortality rates, have continued to improve even during the country’s economic crisis of the 1990s [...]. Today, the social performance of Cuba is one of the best in the developing world, a fact well documented by many international bodies including the World Health Organization, the United Nations Program for Development and other UN agencies as well as the World Bank. [...] Cuba outperforms both Latin American and Caribbean as well as many other middle-income countries in the most important indices of education, public health and hygiene.
And thousands fled to avoid communism.A doctor makes the same as a garbageman...sent mercenaries to Africa....sounds like paradise. I don't buy it.........Harold
 
But at least the Cuban Peso was on par with the American Dollar but not worth a pinch of Coon crap after the revolution....so how did the peoples lives improve?......Harold



It's not heaven on earth but before 1959 the official literacy rate for Cuba was between 60% and 76%, largely because of lack of education access in rural areas and a lack of instructors.

According to the World Bank, Cuba is the only country in Latin America and the Caribbean to have a high quality education system.


Cuba is internationally recognized for its success in the fields of education and health, with social services that exceeds those of most developing countries and, in certain sectors, are comparable to those of the developed nations. Since the Cuban Revolution in 1959 and the establishment of a communist one-party government, the country has created a social system that ensures universal access to education and health services, provided by the state. This model has helped Cuba to achieve universal literacy, eradicate certain diseases and provide universal access to safe drinking water and basic public sanitation. Cuba now has one of the region’s lowest infant mortality rates and longest life expectancies.

A review of social indicators in Cuba reveals an almost continuous improvement from 1960 to 1980. Several major indices, such as life expectancy and infant mortality rates, have continued to improve even during the country’s economic crisis of the 1990s [...]. Today, the social performance of Cuba is one of the best in the developing world, a fact well documented by many international bodies including the World Health Organization, the United Nations Program for Development and other UN agencies as well as the World Bank. [...] Cuba outperforms both Latin American and Caribbean as well as many other middle-income countries in the most important indices of education, public health and hygiene.

And the girls will #### you for a ham sandwich.
 
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