Campro 125gr and w296

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Has anyone tries the campro plated bullets in full power 357 loads? Their sight says that it's ok but looking for advice before I load some of the 125gr in front of 19gr of w296
 
I've shot the 125gr Campro's with 21.0gr of H110. FLASHBANG!

Very fun, but I only shoot a couple of them every now and again. Can't help you with the w296, but at full power loads I did get a couple of lead "swirls" on the paper target as the bullet passed through, meaning I think the rifling cut into the plating a little to deeply and lead was literally being ejected in flight. Or I scraped them when loading them up, I only had it happen with a couple rounds so I'm not ruling anything out. Didn't have any accuracy issues at those speeds either.

Load up a couple and let us know how it goes! Good luck!
 
I've loaded up 105gr powder coated cast bullets with 22gr of h110/w296 with no issues. I've also loaded up 124gr plated bullets (not campro) and again no issues. The best bang/fireball i've had is with nosler 110gr JHP with 22gr of h110/w296.

Both powders are the same FYI (W296 and H110)
 
I have done this and have never had a problem. My load is 20gn of W296 or H110 with 125gn bullets. I have run these out of my 4.2in GP100 and my 8.5in Taurus revolvers and never had an issue. The flash using the 4.2in GP100 is awesome!! Now if you really want some rings of fire, use that load in a Coonan autoloader ;)

Campro's are great. I have been using them for years.
 
Has anyone tries the campro plated bullets in full power 357 loads? Their sight says that it's ok but looking for advice before I load some of the 125gr in front of 19gr of w296

I've done it with H110 powder, when trying to figure a load for my Henry Big Boy Steel in .357mag (that's a 20" barrel). The results were... disappointing, to say the least.

Brass is Winchester fired once, Primer is CCI 550, Powder is 19.0gr of Hodgdon H110, bullet is Campro 125gr FCP-TC, COAL is 1.590". 10 rounds from a bench rest at 100m:

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I also tried with 20.0gr of powder, I was still getting >10MOA in spread, so the remaining bullets are left on the shelf unused.


Brass is Winchester fired once, Primer is CCI 550, Powder is 15.0gr of Hodgdon H110, bullet is Campro 158gr FCP-TC, COAL is 1.590". 10 rounds from a bench rest at 100m:

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I tried those bullets with different charges on another day, and there seemed to be a possible accuracy node for me around 16.2gr, down to about 3-4MOA for those 158gr bullets. Unfortunately I noticed I had a wobbly scope on that day so the results got discarded and I still have to re-do those tests.


For comparison:

Brass is Winchester fired once, Primer is CCI 550, Powder is 21.0gr of Hodgdon H110, bullet is Hornady 125gr XTP, COAL is 1.590". 10 rounds from a bench rest at 100m:

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Brass is Winchester fired once, Primer is CCI 550, Powder is 15.0gr of Hodgdon H110, bullet is Hornady 158gr XTP, COAL is 1.590". 10 rounds from a bench rest at 100m:

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I've come to the conclusion that my carbine just doesn't like the 125gr weight bullets very much. I have a heap of free Hornady 110gr XTP I got from their "get reloaded" promotion, finding if they shoot straight will be one of the jobs for this spring. :)
 
Could be the campro bullets are starting to come apart in such a long barrel I imagine they are cruising pretty good compared to a 5 " bbl
 
21gr of H110 with Campro 125gr FCP-TC in a Ruger GP100 6 in barrel gives out an average speed of 1345 fps.
 
Could be the campro bullets are starting to come apart in such a long barrel I imagine they are cruising pretty good compared to a 5 " bbl

I don't have a chrono yet (it's definitely a project for this year!), but from the Hodgdon load data for an 18.5" barrel, the Hornady XTP 125gr bullets are supposed to be going around 2200-2275 ft/s and the XTP 158gr at 1625-1750 ft/s at the muzzle. Campro did not provide velocity measurements with their load data.

There's definitely some copper being deposited in the barrel, but I can't find any visible signs of fragmentation from looking at the target. How would I know it happens from looking at the paper?
 
I don't have a chrono yet (it's definitely a project for this year!), but from the Hodgdon load data for an 18.5" barrel, the Hornady XTP 125gr bullets are supposed to be going around 2200-2275 ft/s and the XTP 158gr at 1625-1750 ft/s at the muzzle. Campro did not provide velocity measurements with their load data.

There's definitely some copper being deposited in the barrel, but I can't find any visible signs of fragmentation from looking at the target. How would I know it happens from looking at the paper?

try shooting a target 5-15 feet away, it might catch or show any signs of fragments. use a blank piece so you can see it easier or splatter style targets. The other option which would require more work is to make up some ballistics gel. I made mine from bulk gelatin from bulk barn in 6"x6"x16" blocks to test home made hollow points several years back. you would need at least 2, maybe 3 blocks that length to catch the bullet so you can see if any plating striped off.

The only time i've noticed plating come off a bullet is when i shot 300gr muzzle loader bullets in my 500 mag with near max loads of h110/w296. i found a copper ring on the floor just in front of my shooting bench.
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I don't think I'm going to go through the trouble of making ballistic gel, but I can quite probably manage some point blank 3-5m shooting at a blank piece of paper and see if there's more than one hole in it, that's a good idea, thanks! :)
 
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