RCMP Pistol Trials

[City Boy]

I know Abby PD is switching to the G17 soon. It seems the .40S&W flavour may be getting stale. There might be fewer Depts. using the .40 at their next round of pistol purchases.

Many Police departments all over the U.S. are reportedly switching back to 9 mm just as the FBI has switched back. It will be interesting to see how many Canadian forces switch back to 9 mm, but the .40 Kool Aid is strong and I've heard at least one RCMP complain about still having the 9 mm.

 

[Sinasta]

Many Police departments all over the U.S. are reportedly switching back to 9 mm just as the FBI has switched back. It will be interesting to see how many Canadian forces switch back to 9 mm, but the .40 Kool Aid is strong and I've heard at least one RCMP complain about still having the 9 mm.

You dont know what you dont know.

 

[Epoxy7]

This report suggests that the RCMP found the best 9mm loads available at the time to be "good enough". That is to say, at least as good as the old .38 Special +P 158 grain hollow point. Also, I suspect that ammunition commonality with the MP5, as mentioned in the report, may have been a factor.

http://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2008/ps-sp/PS63-2-1995-1E.pdf

I still really like the MP5!!

Many Police departments all over the U.S. are reportedly switching back to 9 mm just as the FBI has switched back. It will be interesting to see how many Canadian forces switch back to 9 mm, but the .40 Kool Aid is strong and I've heard at least one RCMP complain about still having the 9 mm.

The first thing many of the "tactical" FNGs do is complain and try to up their gear. The rest just try to get good with what they have.

 

[David K]

This report suggests that the RCMP found the best 9mm loads available at the time to be "good enough". That is to say, at least as good as the old .38 Special +P 158 grain hollow point. Also, I suspect that ammunition commonality with the MP5, as mentioned in the report, may have been a factor.

...Not really a big factor although it was a consideration, as at the time the of the 5946 issuance, ALMOST the only ones using the MP5 were ERT, and they also used the HK as their side arm when deployed as ERT Mbrs...It really wasn't a case of being good enough, but rather a case of choosing the best load/round that was then available.....As to the final RCMP issued load for the 38SPL, it was the much vaunted "FBI load" with velocities in the low end of the 357 Magnum range, and the Semi-Wadcutter offered excellent" stopping power" while still being controllable....It should be borne in mind that the older (low numbered, C"Prefixed) Model 10s were deemed UNSAFE with the higher pressures of the+P round,and nobody at the time, ever questioned the 357 Mag performance in the Police role......David K

 

[David K]

I still really like the MP5!!



So did I !!....Surprisingly accurate out to a measured 100 meters, ("Head shots" on the standard Target) shooting from supported or prone!....David K

 

[Canadian Sig]

I still really like the MP5!!



So did I !!....Surprisingly accurate out to a measured 100 meters, ("Head shots" on the standard Target) shooting from supported or prone!....David K

Suppressed it is ridiculously quiet.

 

[cp220]

I had a friend advise me that shooting people in the face with 9mm works pretty well.