Tell me about Sig P210

TT1900 said:
Strangely enough, it isn't listed on your website. Exposure counts.
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X2 on that one. I thought tradex prices were on the top end. Weimajack had some beauties complete with cases and accessories for around the same and they were around for a bit. Boxing Day frenzy I guess
 
TT1900 said:
Here we go again........

So is a new Porsche 911 not a 911?
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False analogy. Cars have generations and you know right away that a 1970s car is not 2016 car. It is obvious.

In guns model defines the operational mechanism. 1911 is not Hi-Power. Hi-Power is not Cz 75. In gun even same mechanics in a different caliber is known to be a different model - Sig 220, Sig 226.

Taking a model designation of half a century known quality production and putting in on a new production DIFFERENT gun is a marketing bull. They can name it anything they want, but if you change mechanics so much, its is not P210.
 
TT1900 said:
Here we go again........

So is a new Porsche 911 not a 911?

I hope the new US made version surpasses the original just to silence the irrational fan-boys. I love P210's, have several and think they're one of the best pistols going, but aversion to progress is irritating. The Sig X5 locks up at the ejection port and it's easily a match for the P210. People complained about the P210 legend as well, but it's the best shooting of the P210's I've had or currently have.

To the OP, they're a very well made gun that is durable, has a military pedigree, and matches the accuracy of today's best service and some target handguns in original form. It's a combination very few other pistols manage.
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Irrational fan boys?
It's all about what you like, and different stokes for different folks.
It's like comparing a 65 mustang to a 2017. The des idiom as to which one is "better" will vary with as many people you ask.
 
owlowl said:
False analogy. Cars have generations and you know right away that a 1970s car is not 2016 car. It is obvious.

In guns model defines the operational mechanism. 1911 is not Hi-Power. Hi-Power is not Cz 75. In gun even same mechanics in a different caliber is known to be a different model - Sig 220, Sig 226.

Taking a model designation of half a century known quality production and putting in on a new production DIFFERENT gun is a marketing bull. They can name it anything they want, but if you change mechanics so much, its is not P210.
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I'd argue it's not a perfect analogy but a reasonable one. Guns also have changes made throughout production if they're produced long enough, arguably generations. The P210 is an excellent study in this as manufacturing processes changed greatly during production from start to end.

Operational mechanism you say? So then a series 80 1911 isn't really a 1911? What about an external extractor on a 1911? God forbid, what if it has both? P226 DA/SA, DAK, SAO.......those certainly aren't the same but are all widely accepted as being P226's. Nobody seems to question that a CZ75 Omega is a CZ75, though it's certainly not the same as the original. Is it ok to change triggers, internal safeties, but not locking mechanism? Pretty sure the new P210 will be 9mm, so no issues there.

I don't care what they call it, I hope it's awesome.
 
wbaad said:
Irrational fan boys?
It's all about what you like, and different stokes for different folks.
It's like comparing a 65 mustang to a 2017. The des idiom as to which one is "better" will vary with as many people you ask.
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Agreed. As stated, I greatly enjoy P210's, however they are much like HK P7's in the sense that a certain mystique has built up around the gun and some individuals then drink the kook-aid big time.
 
Shooting Centre said:
Strangely enough, we sell them for less, include a holster and spare magazine and they sit around here for ever. Perhaps we need to increase the prices?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1438446-Sig-p210-2
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TT1900 said:
Strangely enough, it isn't listed on your website. Exposure counts.
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wbaad said:
X2 on that one. I thought tradex prices were on the top end. Weimajack had some beauties complete with cases and accessories for around the same and they were around for a bit. Boxing Day frenzy I guess
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We need to compare apples to apples here. Not to criticize CSC but the P210 shown at $2450 with 2 mags and holster is an army P49 or a dash 2 in civilian form (priced cheaper than the P49's sold at TEC 6 months ago). The most recent batch of P210's sold at TEC were early polished blue dash 1 manufactured in '51 to '53 depending on serial numbers. The comparable 9mm dash 1 listed at CSC is $850 more. Remember that the dash 1 is the flagship of the linup, initially (and still) selling for more than any other variation, except the engraved anniversary editions or very limited production variations.

Here's the difference between my high polished -1 Vs. the army P49:

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Harry Callahan said:
We need to compare apples to apples here. Not to criticize CSC but the P210 shown at $2450 with 2 mags and holster is an army P49 or a dash 2 in civilian form (priced cheaper than the P49's sold at TEC 6 months ago). The most recent batch of P210's sold at TEC were early polished blue dash 1 manufactured in '51 to '53 depending on serial numbers. The comparable 9mm dash 1 listed at CSC is $850 more. Remember that the dash 1 is the flagship of the linup, initially (and still) selling for more than any other variation, except the engraved anniversary editions or very limited production variations.

Here's the difference between my high polished -1 Vs. the army P49:

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This pretty well covers it. I sold my -2 6 months ago and have been waiting for a 50s -1. When the tradex thread came up I did not hesitate and snagged one with wood grips.

The weimajack guns were not in 9mm.
 
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auracle said:
This pretty well covers it. I sold my -2 6 months ago and have been waiting for a 50s -1. When the tradex thread came up I did not hesitate and snagged one with wood grips.

The weimajack guns were not in 9mm.
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If I had to keep only one it would be my dash 1 with conversions to shoot multiple calibers. Nice call.
 
Had one for quite a while...

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I think they're a bit like a Rolex Submariner
- Yes, they are nice... and expensive.
- You pay for the fit/finish/quality/accuracy... and the mystic.

Sold it for the same reason II sold the Valmets...
- Someone really wanted it $
- I have a mental disorder that tells me I need at least 5 magazines per firearm... $1,000 for 4 magazines was a little silly.


Would I buy another one?... Probably.
Wouldn't be the first time I end up buying something I've sold before...
 
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The tradex pic did not do it justice.
 
auracle said:
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The tradex pic did not do it justice.
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Very nice, congrats!
 
Import said:
I hate you all....lol
I would buy the cool aid..and drink it...
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They are cool pistols but very over rated. I owned four over the last few years, three -2 and a -5. Problem with these pistols is getting any original parts are almost non existent and expensive as hell. My experience with these pistols are that they are sighted for the 6 o'clock hold. For poa/poi you need either an adjustable rear or different front sights. And getting different front sight blades in different heights, forget it. A sight pusher, forget it, unless you want to spend $500 bucks for an original. But and a big but is, they are old school cool. Hand fitted by Swiss, removeable trigger group etc etc. Geez just when I though I got them out of my blood, a nice 210-6 would be nice for sure:p
 
owlowl said:
Just to note, there are plans by Sig USA to make new versions of P210. If these ever come to the market, I would advise to use a lot of discretion - these are not P210, they are look a like.

At least one major change I know of - barrel breach locks on the ejection port as opposed to original Browning style milled recesses. I bet that this is not the only change in both design and cost of manufacture.

I'm not saying new P210 would be a bad pistol, I have no idea. But its NOT original P210 but in fact specifically disguised to be one.
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Sorry you are mistaken, they are exactly the same as the Swiss P210 except for the thumb mag release, extended beavertail and firing pin safety (deleted from the P49).
 
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r_taylor said:
Sorry you are mistaken, they are exactly the same as the Swiss P210 except for the thumb mag release, extended beavertail and firing pin safety (deleted from the P49).
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As far as I know the barrel lock-up has been modified. I will still buy one.
 
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