30-30 or 35 rem?
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Lonesome Donkey
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The .35 Remington is the better cartridge.
Bigger heavier bullet at nearly the same velocity as 170 grain .30-30 loads.
But, also consider the .375 Winchester.
If you run across a JM Marlin in one, these are great rifles. Half magazine, 20" barrel, factory sling.
And, the ballistics are slightly better than .35 Remington.
Bigger heavier bullet at nearly the same velocity as 170 grain .30-30 loads.
But, also consider the .375 Winchester.
If you run across a JM Marlin in one, these are great rifles. Half magazine, 20" barrel, factory sling.
And, the ballistics are slightly better than .35 Remington.
I've never noticed any difference between the 7x57 175 gr, 30-30 170 gr, 303 180 gr, 32 Special 170 gr, 8x56R 205 gr, 9.3x57 232 gr. They're all in all 1900 to 2200 fps range, game was Whitetail and Muley from 150 to 250lbs.
From what I've seen, "knockdowns" don't start to happen til 2500-2600 fps with cup and core bullets.
I'd be more than happy to have a 35, but I just can see it having more knockdown than the 9.3, which doesn't knock them down.
I got three levers in 30-30, 32spl, 35 Rem. My favorite is the 32, but if I had to choose between the 30-30 and the 35 that would be a hard choice. I'd probably go with the 35, I've put down deer and moose with it, but never used the 30-30 on moose. All my Grandfather ever used was a 30-30, and he took several bear and moose, and lots of deer with it. Back then it wasn't really sport but a way to put meat on the table.
freddyfour
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Haha, I would like to say I was sipping on a beer while typing but it was at work.
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Not trolling, but did you mistype that? There is a thread of someone taking a Polar Bear with a 9.3 x 57. I've shot a deer or three with mine, seemed to be quite adequate for the task.
Personally I'd go with the 35, a nice flat meplat seems to knock down 'em better. Even a 38 - 55 will shine if you do your part. I've never had luck with new factory fodder for a 38 - 55, it's left me wanting though...
freddyfour
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Hey Hoyt, have you shot anything with the FTX's yet? I avoided buying them because I read on another forum that they are a bit fragile.
Dont feel bad bud....... Hoyt called me on it before..... I just told him I reload while hanging upside down like a bat.....
Since he and I both like m77 rifles I told him that I hunt that way too....... which is why I prefer a crf action...... he seemed to buy it......
He is coming to my place for a goose hunt in march...... once he sees my bench it will only get worse...... so prepare yourself.......
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I've had numerous .30-30 & .35 Rem chambered rifles over the years and all have served me well. The .35 Rem is hampered by its' short neck for use with bullets over 220 gr. for us folks that toss heavier lead. The .30-30 will take a 200 gr. pill easy enough thanks to its' long neck. Both have never failed me to harvest big game cleanly with a good shot.
The one I want is the .35-30/30 or .35-30 as it is perfect for launching cast boolits of 270-280 gr. from standard length, tube fed rifles like the Marlin, Winchester and others. This is basically one of the first wildcat cartridges dating from around 1900 and was made to allow folks to salvage worn out .32-40,32 Special & .30-30 barrels by a re-bore & re-chamber job.
I gotta get off me arse and get my 1910 Winchester 94 in .32-40 done up in .35-30 as the bore & chamber of this rifle need it to live on another hundred+ years.
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The one I want is the .35-30/30 or .35-30 as it is perfect for launching cast boolits of 270-280 gr. from standard length, tube fed rifles like the Marlin, Winchester and others. This is basically one of the first wildcat cartridges dating from around 1900 and was made to allow folks to salvage worn out .32-40,32 Special & .30-30 barrels by a re-bore & re-chamber job.
I gotta get off me arse and get my 1910 Winchester 94 in .32-40 done up in .35-30 as the bore & chamber of this rifle need it to live on another hundred+ years.
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I have killed a lot of animals with 35 rem..mostly predators. 90-200lbs class it has never disappointed with 200 grain RN speer and hornady. Been using FTX in 338 federal three big game animals bullet performance was fine.They shoot like match grade in the gun. it is easy to find 35 Rem ammo buy it at wholesale have to watch reloading shoulder is weak careful crimping.
I've had numerous .30-30 & .35 Rem chambered rifles over the years and all have served me well. The .35 Rem is hampered by its' short neck for use with bullets over 220 gr. for us folks that toss heavier lead. The .30-30 will take a 200 gr. pill easy enough thanks to its' long neck. Both have never failed me to harvest big game cleanly with a good shot.
The one I want is the .35-30/30 or .35-30 as it is perfect for launching cast boolits of 270-280 gr. from standard length, tube fed rifles like the Marlin, Winchester and others. This is basically one of the first wildcat cartridges dating from around 1900 and was made to allow folks to salvage worn out .32-40,32 Special & .30-30 barrels by a re-bore & re-chamber job.
I gotta get off me arse and get my 1910 Winchester 94 in .32-40 done up in .35-30 as the bore & chamber of this rifle need it to live on another hundred+ years.
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Would you really rebore that 1894? Unless it was badly neglected(bore wise) it looks to have a lot of finish remaining.
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Unfortunately, this one was neglected bore & chamber wise over the years. The bore took a fair while to clean up to the point where I could put 5 rounds into an inch at 30 yds., but there is a rust ring in the chamber at the neck junction that allows for heavy extraction effort on loads with 165 gr. cast pushed beyond 800 fps. A bummer fer sure. Some previous owner must have put the bugger away after hunting in the rain & left his last shot cartridge in the chamber for a spell to cause a ring like that. Ye should've seen the copper fouling I took out of that tube using Wipe Out everyday for 3 weeks just to get the bore to where it could print tight for at least 5 shots at 50 yds. I reckon the chamber & bore issue on my 94 warrants the upgrade.
Paging Ron Smith Enterprises.
I've had numerous .30-30 & .35 Rem chambered rifles over the years and all have served me well. The .35 Rem is hampered by its' short neck for use with bullets over 220 gr. for us folks that toss heavier lead. The .30-30 will take a 200 gr. pill easy enough thanks to its' long neck. Both have never failed me to harvest big game cleanly with a good shot.
The one I want is the .35-30/30 or .35-30 as it is perfect for launching cast boolits of 270-280 gr. from standard length, tube fed rifles like the Marlin, Winchester and others. This is basically one of the first wildcat cartridges dating from around 1900 and was made to allow folks to salvage worn out .32-40,32 Special & .30-30 barrels by a re-bore & re-chamber job.
I gotta get off me arse and get my 1910 Winchester 94 in .32-40 done up in .35-30 as the bore & chamber of this rifle need it to live on another hundred+ years.
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Nice rifle , and definitely worth a rebore . Keep us posted .
I think I haven't expressed what I mean to say properly. What I consider knockdown is when you shoot them, and they fall down. If they run 20, 30, 50 yards then fall down, they haven't been knocked down IMO. In my experience, a 232 gr 9.3mm bullet at 35 Rem speeds does not knock them down where they stand.
I like the 9.3x57 a lot and wouldn't hesitate to shoot anything on this continent with one. I consider the Husqvarna rifles so chambered to be one of the best deals going.
I simply don't believe that the 35 will ultimately put more deer meat on the hook than the 30-30.
