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We should also keep in mind this is the RCMP. Not known for logic. As in High River and such..... Logic does not necessarily prevail
 
I think it is long past time to quit this petty bickering and put the cause first. In a few weeks I will post my appeal, which was couriered to RCMP SFSS on Monday, then you will know the true facts the same as I do.
 
pretty sure this was not a mistake by the RCMP lab,it is payback for tearing them a new one with the last 858 fiasco,,except this time,,THEY hold all the cards,
 
Mr Wolverine said:
I think it is long past time to quit this petty bickering and put the cause first. In a few weeks I will post my appeal, which was couriered to RCMP SFSS on Monday, then you will know the true facts the same as I do.
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Thank you very much for keeping the general gun public posted!
 
The thing the I find of most concern is they dont seem to care what we think of their actions. Thats a little scary.
 
si ils mettaient autant d'energie a s'attaquer aux armes illegales des gangs de rue , motards et mafieux????? beenn nooonnnn.....plus facile de tapper sua tete des ti canadiens et des honnêtes commercants!!!!
 
caribico said:
si ils mettaient autant d'energie a s'attaquer aux armes illegales des gangs de rue , motards et mafieux????? beenn nooonnnn.....plus facile de tapper sua tete des ti canadiens et des honnêtes commercants!!!!
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Exactement, mais c' est comme revenue Canada, Il préfère courir après un travailleur qu' une corporation, plus facile comme gibier. Mais bon . on ne peut pas s' attendre à grand chose de libéral en tunique rouge. c est des pourriture, qui s attaque aux gens honnête..
 
I hope the day comes when a canadian firearm owner can rest easy and will no longer have to worry what a bias group of law enforcement agents will scheme up against our god given right to ones defence of our lives and family." a truly free man doesnt have to ask for the right to bare arms"
 
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Believe it or not, I am extremely pro RCMP, I believe them to be an honourable organisation and I am pleased to be policed by them. In my opinion a lot of comments against them in this thread are not justified.
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One thing you might not know, as most Canadians do not know. A RCMP officer does not swear the same oath as a regular police officer does. When a Regular police officer swears an oath, he swears to serve and protect the citizen. When an RCMP officer swears an oath, he swears to serve and protect the government. That IMO that's called tyranny, since we pay their wage in tax.
 
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One thing you might not know, as most Canadians do not know. A RCMP officer does not swear the same oath as a regular police officer does. When a Regular police officer swears an oath, he swears to serve and protect the citizen. When an RCMP officer swears an oath, he swears to serve and protect the government. That IMO that's called tyranny, since we pay their wage in tax.
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"I solemnly swear that I will faithfully, diligently and impartially execute and perform the duties required of me as a member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, and will well and truly obey and perform all lawful orders and instructions that I receive as such, without fear, favour or affection of or toward any person. So help me God."

Not quite the way I read it but I can see why you might have that impression.
 
EViLUTiON said:
One thing you might not know, as most Canadians do not know. A RCMP officer does not swear the same oath as a regular police officer does. When a Regular police officer swears an oath, he swears to serve and protect the citizen. When an RCMP officer swears an oath, he swears to serve and protect the government. That IMO that's called tyranny, since we pay their wage in tax.
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I swear the oath as a regular spartan does.
 
Mr Wolverine: Is it possible to replace the molan labe furniture and dust cover and sell them as regular 858's?

You could reduce the price by $100 for example and then give the buyers first option on buying the Spartan parts separately for $100.
 
Interesting enough, I just had this sent to me by the Conservative leadership candidate, Erin O'Toole,
I think he is referring to your situation!

The Firearms System is Broken
EO
Erin O'Toole <info@otoole2017.ca>



Law-abiding Canadian firearms owners are being treated like second class citizens.

And now, some of them are at risk of becoming criminals overnight and having their private property seized.

The Liberals have always hated gun-owners, but this latest example of gun reclassification is truly ridiculous.

This month, a completely legal rifle was reclassified because an ancient Greek phrase, molon labe, and a Canadian maple leaf were etched into it.

You read that right.

A special edition of a completely legal rifle has been prohibited because of its artwork.

Canada’s firearms classification system is officially broken, but here’s my commitment to fix it:

As leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, I will stand with law-abiding firearms owners.

I will fight the Liberals to protect hunters, farmers and sport shooters every step of the way.
 
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Interstate enough, I just had this sent to me by the Conservative leadership candidate, Erin O'Toole,
I think she is referring to your situation!

The Firearms System is Broken
EO
Erin O'Toole <info@otoole2017.ca>



Law-abiding Canadian firearms owners are being treated like second class citizens.

And now, some of them are at risk of becoming criminals overnight and having their private property seized.

The Liberals have always hated gun-owners, but this latest example of gun reclassification is truly ridiculous.

This month, a completely legal rifle was reclassified because an ancient Greek phrase, molon labe, and a Canadian maple leaf were etched into it.

You read that right.

A special edition of a completely legal rifle has been prohibited because of its artwork.

Canada’s firearms classification system is officially broken, but here’s my commitment to fix it:

As leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, I will stand with law-abiding firearms owners.

I will fight the Liberals to protect hunters, farmers and sport shooters every step of the way.
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Mr O'Toole is better informed than most, the issue is that if these markings on the stock and bolt carrier really make her a special edition then the RCMP will argue that she needs a new FRT as she is no longer a CZ 858 tactical -2P and then she is prohibited as outside the enabling regulations.
 
I'm starting to get the impression that Erin O'Toole is pretty god damn woke! I think if he keeps on expressing interest in solving smaller grass-roots conservative Canadian issues (like the 858 issue), he might actually stand a chance :)

I think he has my vote so far.
 
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