Question for Tikka haters and lovers

Didn't even start looking for a scope. Rifle will be for hunting in the fall, so like 9 months or so from now. I won't get to use the rifle at all until summer, so I'm in no hurry. I'll go to the store and find out 3-4 models that I like and are in my price range, then I'll check online and see if I can get one of them on sale or used for a good price.

Expected range isn't very far. In Quebec there are trees everywhere. If you're shooting 200m, you're probably from one side of a mountain to another. Doesn't happen often. I'll zero the scope at 100m, but most shot I expect will be less then that. I didn't buy this rifle for long distance.
 
They are $ 450 rifle, selling for a grand. Not interested even at $600... I find them highly overrated! Noticing more and more on the EE and more threads about people having issues or poor accuracy
 
There is nothing wrong with Tikka t3's at $600....... but at $1000 it's a stretch to explain why they are worth $200 more than a savage 110...... that goofy bolt stop setup as opposed to a correctly sized short action and that small ejection port would be real stoppers for me.... but at least they fixed the bolt shroud and I believe the recoil lug issues.....

I am glad I spent a lot of time (and money) last year buying up everything I wanted last year when I predicted a huge price jump..... today's price are nuts...
 
it is all about what the people are willing to pay for ... at $550 this an axis or Marlin XL7, at $1000 there is certainly more better option. unless you need a non expensive lightweight rifle there is no punishment in that caliber for the design of the factory recoil pad ....
 
Superbrad said:
There is nothing wrong with Tikka t3's at $600....... but at $1000 it's a stretch to explain why they are worth $200 more than a savage 110...... that goofy bolt stop setup as opposed to a correctly sized short action and that small ejection port would be real stoppers for me.... but at least they fixed the bolt shroud and I believe the recoil lug issues.....

I am glad I spent a lot of time (and money) last year buying up everything I wanted last year when I predicted a huge price jump..... today's price are nuts...
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wait next year ...
 
medvedqc said:
wait next year ...
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I agree Phil....... I bought 12 rifles, 3 shotguns, a revolver, new reloading gear, optics for the rifles and components and dies for 11 different calibers in 2016 most at the beginning of the year when the 2015 prices could still be had..... it's only going to get worse..... my list is down to two rifles right now, a nice ruger #1a in an interesting chambering and a ruger m77 all weather in 300 win mag...... and that will be it.....

Oh, I am also on the waiting list at Wagner Gun Shops for a .366 Wagner Jerkomatic!..... lol
 
Bartledan said:
Waiter, can I get another basket of eyerolls over here, please?
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cdn shooter said:
70 degree bolt, smoother, feeds better, factory plastic is much stiffer, light years better trigger.

Accuracy....same being some are good some aren't.
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Bolts get smooth with use...... not a big seller for me.....

As for trigger, I must admit, I have only taken a few shots with both....... so I am in no position to judge that...... but I will say that I "fix" the triggers on all rifles I buy and own, so don't consider that a "thing".....

Both Tikka and axis owners claim super accuracy out of the box, and every time a thread gets started for either, someone is honest enough to chime in that they got a dud....... so my assessment is that both can provide the accuracy expected from a modern rifle manufactured using modern machining techniques......

My personal opinion is that a knowledgeable rifleman can refine or replace any trigger, and unless you are paying huge dollars for a refined rifle, all factory offerings will offer that challenge.....

I put the Tikka above the axis based on mag design, stock "conventionality" and stiffness.......

But do those factors make it worth so much extra money, and is the Tikka putting itself in a price range it doesn't deserve?... I personally think so....
 
I now pity MDT and Cadex, they are going out of business for sure, selling chassis for the price of 2 full axis rifles, what a joke.
 
Superbrad said:
Both Tikka and axis owners claim super accuracy out of the box, and every time a thread gets started for either, someone is honest enough to chime in that they got a dud....... so my assessment is that both can provide the accuracy expected from a modern rifle manufactured using modern machining techniques......

But do those factors make it worth so much extra money, and is the Tikka putting itself in a price range it doesn't deserve?... I personally think so....
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I've had 2 axis' and both shot a heck of a lot better then this tikka and for $300 a gun.

I agree it is over priced now and for the same money there are better quality choices that are not budget rifles with a high price tag. They are made by sako after all and they can charge whatever they want and people will flock to it.
 
hometownhero said:
I've had 2 axis' and both shot a heck of a lot better then this tikka and for $300 a gun.

I agree it is over priced now and for the same money there are better quality choices that are not budget rifles with a high price tag. They are made by sako after all and they can charge whatever they want and people will flock to it.
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So you got one that didn't shoot, therefore all of them are overpriced? I've got 4 that do shoot. 4/4. 100% They *do* come with a 3 shot MOA guarantee, so what's your dang problem? Send it back!

Are your Axis' as reliable? Fit for military service like the Tikka? Can you strip the bolt with no tools? How are the triggers? Good as the Tikka? You must love that goofy blade. Do you like the nice flexi forearms that touch the barrel when you shoot from a rest? How are those magazines with the plastic tab that breaks off? Those molded-in sling swivels popular with the ladies? How about the ugly wrist and vile appearance?

Just sell the Tikka already.
 
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Bartledan said:
So you got one that didn't shoot, therefore all of them are overpriced? I've got 4 that do shoot. 4/4. 100% They *do* come with a 3 shot MOA guarantee, so what's your dang problem? Send it back!

Are your Axis' as reliable? Fit for military service like the Tikka? Can you strip the bolt with no tools? How are the triggers? Good as the Tikka? You must love that goofy blade. Do you like the nice flexi forearms that touch the barrel when you shoot from a rest? How are those magazines with the plastic tab that breaks off? Those molded-in sling swivels popular with the ladies? How about the ugly wrist and vile appearance?

Just sell the Tikka already.
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No they are all overpriced because they are a budget gun. If it was made by anyone other then sako it would be a travesty priced at a grand. Has nothing to do with how they shoot.

Yes my axis were as reliable. I am not in a military so how does that matter one bit. Do you take the bolt apart every chance you get? Why does it matter about tools?? Triggers are good and can be easily made betterNo idea what blade you are talking about. The tikka stock also flexes. Never had a tab break off even when used in -40 weather. Nothing on them broke, bent, busted. Jerry proved that in a torture test done by him.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...tween-5-quot-75-quot-all-day!-Really-Prove-it!

Give it a go the list is short and only one t3 on there. By everyone's account it should be full of t3's
 
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Aside from the T3, interesting to see the TC Icon there... an often forgotton "affordable" rifle. I shot one once and was pleasantly surprized at performance and smooth bolt throw.
 
hometownhero said:
No they are all overpriced because they are a budget gun. If it was made by anyone other then sako it would be a travesty priced at a grand. Has nothing to do with how they shoot.

Yes my axis were as reliable. I am not in a military so how does that matter one bit. Do you take the bolt apart every chance you get? Why does it matter about tools?? Triggers are good and can be easily made betterNo idea what blade you are talking about. The tikka stock also flexes. Never had a tab break off even when used in -40 weather. Nothing on them broke, bent, busted. Jerry proved that in a torture test done by him.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...tween-5-quot-75-quot-all-day!-Really-Prove-it!

Give it a go the list is short and only one t3 on there. By everyone's account it should be full of t3's
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That link leads to an *accuracy* test, not a torture test. Yes, it has only one Tikka on it, but it has zero Savage Axes on it, so what's your dang point?

As far as I can tell your point is that you like hunting with crappy gear.

Stop trying to suggest I said Tikkas are the most accurate or the most anything. They are by any measure better than the savage axis except accuracy, where they are as good. Artificially conflating the two is silly, stop doing it. I said Tikkas are good, and a safe bet.

I take bolts apart for cleaning and inspection as part of routine maintenance. Nobody with a Savage does that. I do that with my Winchesters, Tikkas, Vanguards, Rugers, and my Sako. Everyone should. Nothing in there is stainless, usually. Strippable bolt is one of my acceptance criteria. It's why I don't own Savage, Browning, Remington or euro-trash. Browning can be stripped, but you need soft jawed vice grips.

Your axis is cheap, poorly maintained, and hasn't failed yet. My Tikka is not cheap, is well maintained, and will not fail (Military-grade reliability, right?). That's what i spent the extra money to get. Oh, and it's an MOA shooter, nice bonus.

Wait... You're literally saying Tikkas are overpriced beause they cost more than a Savage Axis. Why am I feeding the troll!?!
 
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