Deactivating No 4s

stencollector said:
Just as well that they are deactivated....the unit's gun rack does not appear to meet DND security standards for small arms. The rack is not to be made from wood, and it almost looks like if you undid the 4 bolts the the two locking bars hinge on, you could remove the bars and then the rifles.

Shame about the Cno7s being deactivated like this. They are far more expensive than the typical no4, and so often were the first rifle urban Canadian youth learned to shoot with as cadets.
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Yeah. Or bring bolt cutters. Or simply, a hammer, to beat the lock with.

Mostly BS feel-good about having 'done' something.

In reality, the main portion of the security of this stuff is that nobody that is of a mind to steal it, is going to go through the trouble. But it keeps someone employed.

Cheers
Trev
 
I remember when my high school had some stored there for the cadets. Even had a 3.5inch rocket launcher. Good olde days.....
 
The rifle rack was taken out of Blackdown Park Cadet Summer Training Center. It is indeed made out of plywood. Not to current specs for live rifles. Blackdown replaced it with all steel units and these became available to local corps. It is mandated that DPs are secured, the rack is deemed suitable.

Blackdown is currently holding about 300 live No.4 rifles for blank fire use on the parade square. Every summer, there is a big parade open to the public, the Sunset Ceremony. The cadets perform a one hundred rifle Feu de Joie. They fire three volleys in concert with a large massed pipe and brass band. It is really cool and the audience jumps in their seats.

I freaked when I saw the state of the bores on some of them. Carbon from many many blanks.
I worked as the camp's Chief RSO for a few summers. I created a 'make work and keep em busy' program on weekends for the camp cadets to clean them. Amazingly, I was swamped with volunteers who wanted to clean the rifles. ??? We got the bores shiney again and the wood just popped when RLO was lovingly applied. Most were Long Branch Mk.I* but strangely there were a few Faz Mk.Is.
 
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CrazyHands13 said:
Molesting original firearms should literally be illegal. Defacing history. There's only so many.
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^ Ok.................I have to come clean on a dark, dark, deed I played a role in the past in dewating a Long Branch No4. In the early 1990s I was training baby (TQ-3) tankers in Depot Sqn of the Armour School in Gagetown. On Graduation day there would be a table literally groaning under the weight of umpteen re-purposed trophies for everything you can imagine ie. Top student, Most improved, Best this, Best that, and on and on. What there was NOT was a trophy for Best at gunnery, so being the bright spark I was back then and with the Century/International Arms of Montreal flyer in hand I went to the course I was instructing and told them to each pony up $5 to buy a LE and a nice piece of wood to mount it on. Anyways the boys chuck in their money, I buy the wood and order the rifle with my FAC. It comes in and good lord it was nice, like almost NEW nice. Now here is the part that has been bothering me ever since, and you may want to stop reading now. I took the Lee into the welders and had them do the dirty deed are neutering a VERY fine rifle. I mount the Lee to the plaque and had carved the RCAC badge on it and hand painted and hence the the Sgt. E. Holland VC award for top marks for Skill in Arms was born . Where that rifle and plaque are today is any ones guess (Armour School or ABS ?) and if anyone in uniform in Gagetown can track it down and post a pic it would be pretty cool.
 
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I have seen this too. The wepond techs turning no4's and no7s into drill rifles. Some were taken out of service mostly for elongated chambers, but some of the no7s were new out of the transit chests.
It still disturbs to this day, enough to make a Billy goat spew chuncks.
Even spare parts for c1 and c2s were demilled with extreme prejudice.
There is no God
Be.well
 
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