Lungorthin
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- Calgary, AB
I'd go with the Glock personally
I'm more partial to stiker fired guns though.
I'm more partial to stiker fired guns though.
I cant decide !! 1911 / Glock17 / Jericho 941
- Thread starter crankypunk
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Op im a member at crafm have a few pistols Norc 1911 45 upgraded NP22 Norc 226 copy 9mm a sig 1911 22 upgraded
a tt33 and a beretta 92fs inox 9mm upgraded , would be happy to let you try them out just pitch in for some ammo cost
and your day pass
Group photo on cleaning day
a tt33 and a beretta 92fs inox 9mm upgraded , would be happy to let you try them out just pitch in for some ammo cost
and your day pass
Group photo on cleaning day
YMMV... because I had a Norinco 1911 9mm that I shot until I wore the barrel out (I lost count on rounds, well in the 10's of thousands) and the rest of the firearm (excluding spring changes) including the sear and such were still awesome.
I have no clue what model you had compared to me though: mine was some of the earlier ones in Canada.
This is not the time to be impulsive. If you can't arrange anything else then take up f55 on his generous offer. There is NO SUBSTITUTE for actually trying out a lot of different guns.
There's two categories that split up the semi auto handgun options. First is all metal vs metal/polymer. Some like the feel and balance in the hand and others don't. Try guns in both styles and make up your own mind. Next is external hammer fired vs internal striker fired. The two styles have noticeably different trigger pull feels. Again try a few of both styles and get a feel for which style you like.
You say that .22 conversion kits are important to you. But while this will be your first handgun it sure sounds like it will not be your last handgun. The big plus of a conversion kit is that it allows you to practice with the same trigger for consistency. But if you will eventually get a variety of handguns there won't be any consistency anyway.
A key role that a .22 filled for me was low recoil practice to kill off a bad flinching issue I had when I started. For continuity I found it very handy to start with a .22 and get my good habits in place. Then I'd switch to the 9mm and shoot until I felt the flinch return. At that point even if half way through a mag I'd unload and clear and go back to the .22. I found that this nearly seamless transition really aided me. YMMV of course but I'm not the only one that I've seen or talked with that used this back and forth trick. But if you have to stop long enough to replace the upper end each time the continuity is gone. And so is the benefit you get from shooting the rimfire and center fire together in this manner. So I'm far more a fan of separate guns instead of conversion kits. Plus as my tastes change I can sell this or buy that and not have to deal with selling associated parts. And finally the last big kick in the teeth about conversion kits for me is that most of them cost as much as some pretty decent rimfire whole handguns.
There's two categories that split up the semi auto handgun options. First is all metal vs metal/polymer. Some like the feel and balance in the hand and others don't. Try guns in both styles and make up your own mind. Next is external hammer fired vs internal striker fired. The two styles have noticeably different trigger pull feels. Again try a few of both styles and get a feel for which style you like.
You say that .22 conversion kits are important to you. But while this will be your first handgun it sure sounds like it will not be your last handgun. The big plus of a conversion kit is that it allows you to practice with the same trigger for consistency. But if you will eventually get a variety of handguns there won't be any consistency anyway.
A key role that a .22 filled for me was low recoil practice to kill off a bad flinching issue I had when I started. For continuity I found it very handy to start with a .22 and get my good habits in place. Then I'd switch to the 9mm and shoot until I felt the flinch return. At that point even if half way through a mag I'd unload and clear and go back to the .22. I found that this nearly seamless transition really aided me. YMMV of course but I'm not the only one that I've seen or talked with that used this back and forth trick. But if you have to stop long enough to replace the upper end each time the continuity is gone. And so is the benefit you get from shooting the rimfire and center fire together in this manner. So I'm far more a fan of separate guns instead of conversion kits. Plus as my tastes change I can sell this or buy that and not have to deal with selling associated parts. And finally the last big kick in the teeth about conversion kits for me is that most of them cost as much as some pretty decent rimfire whole handguns.
In not a huge fan of 1911in 9mm either...owned three...kept none....nothing wrong with them in any way...just prefer other pistols in 9......40 now that's a different game all together...for 9 I'd hate to say I'd go Glock of your choices..the Jericho has a big following and is a great platform...personally I prefer Cz...for target and comp in 9....if I was carrying or defending my own...the Glock would win hands down....but that's just me...
i got my PAL last November only. so im a newbie too. i bought a glock 17 gen 4. i also bought a cz shadow 2 and a sig 1911 elite.
my most favorite is the cz shadow 2.
i seldom shoot the glock as its too challenging for a newbie like me. 1911 is now undergoing trigger job.
if you want to choose between i would go for 1911. but shadow 2 beats all.
my most favorite is the cz shadow 2.
i seldom shoot the glock as its too challenging for a newbie like me. 1911 is now undergoing trigger job.
if you want to choose between i would go for 1911. but shadow 2 beats all.
The Shadow 2 is well beyond the stated price and for a brand new shooter offers nothing over a Shadow or even CZ75. What is challenging about shooting the Glock? Genuinely curious as I've found the Glock trigger much easier to become comfortable with than the two trigger pulls of DA/SA guns.
There is no challenge in shooting the Glock IMO. The grip size and shape might take a bit of time to get used to. To me, the default grip is kinda crap and you cannot just replace the grip panel like 1911. Trigger is just like everyone said ... smooshy (but it can be fixed with after market parts). If you can afford a Glock17 Gen 4 you can probably afford the Shadow2 without skipping a lot of lunches. It all boils down to which one you prefer. I would suggest TC to go try the pistols out before buying. I grew to love the Glock after throwing mods on it (you don't need to). I shot my friend's Shadow 2 first time and said to myself this gun is good as it is OEM.
Wait a minute. The guy that constantly brings up the "Kaboom Lottery" is recommending a USP?
This almost as good as the guy who calls Glocks an "Outdated 35 year old design" recommending a 1911 to someone.
FWIW OP, I really don't think you can go wrong with any of your choices. Handle as many as you can and decide what you think will be best. Trying before buying is the best option if it's available to you. You might consider a Star Model Super B for a 9mm 1911 type pistol.
I find controlling the glock harder than the shadow 2. it may be the recoil considering the weight of the glock. i did a zevtech upgrade to make it a bit easier and my shooting seems to improve a bit. a guy who shoots glock advised me to upgrade to a tungsten or stainless guide rod to make the gun a bit heavier. am just saving then will go for that.may be that can make me better in shooting the glock.
i agree that maybe shooting the glock will need to get getting used too. i have only shot about 500 rounds in it. will see.
i agree that maybe shooting the glock will need to get getting used too. i have only shot about 500 rounds in it. will see.
The pistol used is not the issue, it's the person using it.
I have shot all sorts of pistols and never had issue with shooting any of them be they polymer or all metal.
Practice is all that's needed. I know some people prefer on over but it shouldn't matter polymer or metal.
I have shot all sorts of pistols and never had issue with shooting any of them be they polymer or all metal.
Practice is all that's needed. I know some people prefer on over but it shouldn't matter polymer or metal.
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IchBinEinSniper
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Brockvegas
Hard to get a decent 1911 in your budget range, but is doable, check used as well. The glock you can get new in your price range. The glock should run like a corolla, nothing special, but runs forever...
Actually I can see that. I Glock guy might also like a Corolla. An H&K USP is more like a 911 Porsche, in that comparison. Which would you buy, the Corolla or the 911 if the price was practically the same?
crankypunk
New member
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- Monteal, QC
Thanks everyone for your input.
I got in touch with the local people and will take my time to make the right decision.
I got in touch with the local people and will take my time to make the right decision.
