Best 9mm for target- no price limit
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I own a Pardini GT9 and a CZ TS40 and have shot the Sig X6 and P210 Target. To me the best is the Pardini, yes the grip angle is pretty steep but you get used to it pretty quickly and the trigger is fully adjustable and the best I have ever used in any firearm. The grip is quite big so you need at least size large hands for the Pardini. Second is a toss up between the CZ and the P210 both are excellent but the CZ has a better trigger but also a bigger grip. I had to put slim aluminum grips on mine. The P210 just fits perfectly in the hand. Fit and finish on the P210 is better but man that CZ can shoot. The Sig X6 comes last but still very close. Couldn't go wrong with any of them. In terms of inherent accuracy basically no difference between them so it really comes down to what works best for you. I sure there are others but these are the 4 I have experience with.
I want to thank all of you Gents who have contributed to my post. Very interesting to read all of your opinions as all of you have experience with high end 9mm. Am I going to buy another 9mm? Well if I look at my track record, the probabilities are certainly there !! Of course, whatever it will be, I'll tell my wife that the price tag is 250$. She won't really believe me but it will be all good... 
Gilbert
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^^^^ Same here it just feels better in the hand (mine)
Tried a friends Swiss P210 for a few weeks. Just couldn't shoot it as well as my Sig X5's. I have a S&W PPC-9 that is outstanding, but a new X5 X-series that I picked up might shoot even better than my PPC-9.
When you look at what guns are winning the NRA's NPSC's, they are S&W PPC-9's and STI 1911 TARGET Masters. The Firearm Blog ran a story a while back where they tested just what you are asking. The X5
came out on top, but as pointed out it had an electronic dot sight on it. It was mentioned that the PPC-9 would have likely shot as good with a dot. The Walter GSP's, Pardini's, Hamerelli's all lost out to these guns.
It's a very interesting read if you get a chance. The Sig X5's / X6's also clean up in PPC Europe.
Rich
When you look at what guns are winning the NRA's NPSC's, they are S&W PPC-9's and STI 1911 TARGET Masters. The Firearm Blog ran a story a while back where they tested just what you are asking. The X5
came out on top, but as pointed out it had an electronic dot sight on it. It was mentioned that the PPC-9 would have likely shot as good with a dot. The Walter GSP's, Pardini's, Hamerelli's all lost out to these guns.
It's a very interesting read if you get a chance. The Sig X5's / X6's also clean up in PPC Europe.
Rich
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sillymike
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whatever it will be, I'll tell my wife that the price tag is 250$. She won't really believe me but it will be all good...
Gilbert
Yeah... only $250...
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Actually, used to shoot with a guy who thought like that. Every month he kept his old car on the road, was $$$ available toward the next gun purchase.
- The only general practitioner I knew who was driving a +10 years Mazda 323
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I scored this oldschool Beretta on trade and it's as dead nuts accurate as any Sig X or 210 or CZ I've ever shot, and I've shot a few.
Barsto match barrel with barrel mounted comp and target sights. I'm guessing it would cost 2+ to build one like this today, if you could get a Jarvis comp.
I had Samurai Edge grips made for extra Zombie killing power!
Barsto match barrel with barrel mounted comp and target sights. I'm guessing it would cost 2+ to build one like this today, if you could get a Jarvis comp.
I had Samurai Edge grips made for extra Zombie killing power!
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Just read this article from a test comparison in Oct 2016:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/12/exclusive-testing-worlds-accurate-pistols-part/
Coles Notes:
Contenders:
Best of the bunch...
Sig Sauer P226S X-Five
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/12/exclusive-testing-worlds-accurate-pistols-part/
Coles Notes:
Contenders:
- S&W Performance Center 5906 PPC 9mm
- S&W Performance Center 3566 Limited 9mm
- Sig Arms P210-5 Heavy Frame 9mm
- Sig Sauer P210 Legend Target 9mm
- Sig Hammerli P240 .32S&W
- Sig Sauer P226S X-Five Enhanced Classic 9mm
- CZ 75 Tactical Sport 9mm Benelli MP3S .32 S&W
- Pardini GT45-II 9mm
- Beretta 92 Combat 9mm
- Glock 17L 9mm (3rd gen) - included as a "frame of reference"
Best of the bunch...
Sig Sauer P226S X-Five
That's a nice review. I personally shot those pistols except the 3566, Benelli, Beretta 92 Combat and Hammerli P240. They all have their + and -, of course the X5 with the X weight module, X mount and T-2 sight shot the best groups (it's like comparing a scoped rifle to an iron sighted one in the hand of a casual/average shooter). Without it's added weight and micro RD sight I bet the results would have been somewhat different. Testing these pistols in a Ransom rest and eliminating human error would have been the way to see which one shoots the best. Still, a day at the range with expensive toys and lot's of ammo, must have been a good one indeed.
I've seen the collection of Brian C. (aka bac1023 on various firearms forums) and I must admit I'm a bit jealous! He probably has one of the best hi end pistol and revolver collection in the US and he's a very knowledgeable guy. "Hey Brian, let me know if you need any help for your next article, I would make myself available!"
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I don't totally agree. That might test pure mechanical accuracy but a ransom negates the trigger. There is a reason 50m free pistols have insanely light triggers. My LB might have a 1.5" accuracy guarantee but I shoot others better. These tests off of bags are pretty reasonable for what they are and these guys did a thorough job. But getting caught up in fraction of an inch differences when many of these are hitting sub 2" at 25 yards is a little like picking the fly poop out of the pepper. There is also variability between different samples of the same model. that never seem to get raised, yet these shootouts could be won or lost by a good or bad sample. I've had several different Sig level 1 X guns and they were not all created equal.
The best approach then would be, same pistols same day same shooters, both methodologies and see how it all compares - and the shooters still get their day at the range with expensive toys and lot's of ammo, as HC so aptly put it LOL. I'd volunteer but I can't shoot worth a damn....screw it, I volunteer anyway!
You're right about the mechanical accuracy factor Vs. trigger pull weight and travel but since most triggers on these hi end target pistols (apart from the Beretta 92 and Glock of course) are either very light from factory or nearly totally adjustable down to very short let off weight and travel, the Ransom is a pretty good way to figure out the extent of possible accuracy of each pistol.
I also agree that you could test 10 different pistols of the same make and model and each would produce different group size.
UPDATE FROM THE O.P. = me
I finally bought an extremely lightl used ( 100 rounds trough it ) Sig Sauer X5 Scandic. I received it today. First impressions: Fit and finish are impeccable. A real jewel of a gun. Trigger is fantastic and slide to frame very tight as expected. I can't wait to shoot it...
Will post pics tomorrow.
Gilbert
I finally bought an extremely lightl used ( 100 rounds trough it ) Sig Sauer X5 Scandic. I received it today. First impressions: Fit and finish are impeccable. A real jewel of a gun. Trigger is fantastic and slide to frame very tight as expected. I can't wait to shoot it...
Will post pics tomorrow.
Gilbert
