243,308 or 44 mag for dogging

Superbrad said:
Yep....... I dog with a .308 scout rifle.......

I used to have a 1.5-4 on it for the same scenario boomer mentioned, but the odds of getting a 200 yard shot on my land at camp are minimal, so I gave up the scope for a quality red dot....... (literllay have to try hard to find a place to practice that shot on my land)......

That being said, with a 2 moa dot, and a bit of practice I can fairly easily do 4-5" at 200 with a good rest.......
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I also use a red dot, what kind of red dot do you use?
 
mike t said:
I also use a red dot, what kind of red dot do you use?
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I have a holosun...... would swear by it........ I had my doubts, but tried hard to make it fail and I couldn't......

Most of our sitters have cheaper bushnell trophies and they work ok, but as dogger, we know our rifles may get submitted to more "torturous" conditions.......

I am in the same position as you, in that I dog the thick stuff, but there are still moments on a run where I come out to clearings, swamps etc...... this would allow me maybe a 200 yard max shot (think I come up on the swamp and the deer is competely at the furthest end).......
 
Superbrad said:
I have a holosun...... would swear by it........ I had my doubts, but tried hard to make it fail and I couldn't......

Most of our sitters have cheaper bushnell trophies and they work ok, but as dogger, we know our rifles may get submitted to more "torturous" conditions.......

I am in the same position as you, in that I dog the thick stuff, but there are still moments on a run where I come out to clearings, swamps etc...... this would allow me maybe a 200 yard max shot (think I come up on the swamp and the deer is competely at the furthest end).......
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In our bush the furthest shot I would have is 100 yards and that is a stretch, I currently use a bushnell Trs-25
 
mike t said:
In our bush the furthest shot I would have is 100 yards and that is a stretch, I currently use a bushnell Trs-25
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No experience with the trs-25......... but the trophy ones have never let the gang down.........

I suggest that you practice at 100 to get it dialed in then stretch it out....... I bet you will be surprised.....
 
Here is the scout........ I took a deer on my he fly with it at camp this year, hardly a ringing endorsement at 200, but it's the first year I hunted it this way........

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Winchester model 100 in 308 makes a good bush pushing gun, that is if you're the part of the hunt that's shooting at the game.

Most of my bush pushing was done for clients and we never bothered to carry rifles....drop them off, set them up and push! repeat and repeat as nec.
 
Just because you choose to be the dog doesn't mean you can't carry the hammer as well.

In regards to the OP's question,.. a BLR81.308Win with a wide angle fixed scope, 4X is fine for me and deadly if the stock weld is precise and instant, others may find it too much, and loaded up with 165gr Hornady spitzer flat base interlocks over WW748. They don't ask for a second swing if you know what I mean. This is what makes the .308Win truly the cartridge that "Does it All". Fast handling carbines in Timber or tack driving ratsch-booms high in a tree covering a distant clear cut, it can be the heart of either.

Merry Xmas.
 
RememberTheSomme said:
Just because you choose to be the dog doesn't mean you can't carry the hammer as well.

In regards to the OP's question,.. a BLR81.308Win with a wide angle fixed scope, 4X is fine for me and deadly if the stock weld is precise and instant, others may find it too much, and loaded up with 165gr Hornady spitzer flat base interlocks over WW748. They don't ask for a second swing if you know what I mean. This is what makes the .308Win truly the cartridge that "Does it All". Fast handling carbines in Timber or tack driving ratsch-booms high in a tree covering a distant clear cut, it can be the heart of either.

Very true, I have shot a fair amount of deer while dogging
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mike t said:
BLR 243 or ruger 96/44 for dogging the dirty bush for deer. Shots will be 80 yards tops. Thanks for everyone's feedback in advance. MERRY CHRISTMAS
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With our new 2016 spring black bear hunt introduced in my WMU I was carrying a rifle or shotgun with us everywhere we travelled while up at our cabin. Henry 45-70 Steel, Winchester Defender Shotgun or my Henry Big Boy 12" barrel 44 Mag Lever Action.

Having experienced carrying all the time whether hiking or on an ATV, weight was a big factor and for black bear and deer under 100 yards my go to firearm was this:

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... and capable of groups like this:

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hawk-i said:
Winchester model 100 in 308 makes a good bush pushing gun, that is if you're the part of the hunt that's shooting at the game.

Most of my bush pushing was done for clients and we never bothered to carry rifles....drop them off, set them up and push! repeat and repeat as nec.
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The loud cursing after the win 100 "jamomatic" jams up is what drives the deer forward.;)
 
44 mag for me when dogging. I have a 308 BLR for when I am sitting but I find it a little too heavy and a little too long for moving through thick bush. As someone else mentioned the stock sights on the 96 are not the greatest. I put a fixed x2 Leupold in low rings on mine and it's a great combo. Short, light and accurate to 100 yards. Longest shot in our bush would be 80 yards tops
 
I did a lot of dogging in my younger days, first with a 44-40 rifle that was later converted to 44 Mag. ... then with a Marlin 1894 in 44 Mag. and lastly with a first design
Ruger 44 Mag. carbine. (PITA to unload, liked the second design with the push button magazine release much better.) All wore peep sights, with the threaded aperture removed - so I just used the large hole it threaded into.


Since then, I have take a stand or still hunted with a .308, a 264 Win Mag., 35 Whelen, 25-06 and more recently a 257 Roberts all scoped. The 308 with a Weaver V-3, the 264 with a Kahles 2-7, the 35 Whelen & 257 Roberts with Leupold VX-II in 1-4 and the 25-06 with a Leupold VX-II in 2-7.

Can't think of a better dogging rifle than the original 44 Ruger carbine (not fussy on the Deerfield Version), and while dogging, don't remember any shot (or opportunity) at anything over 50 or 60 yards.
 
beretta boy said:
I did a lot of dogging in my younger days, first with a 44-40 rifle that was later converted to 44 Mag. ... then with a Marlin 1894 in 44 Mag. and lastly with a first design
Ruger 44 Mag. carbine. (PITA to unload, liked the second design with the push button magazine release much better.) All wore peep sights, with the threaded aperture removed - so I just used the large hole it threaded into.


Since then, I have take a stand or still hunted with a .308, a 264 Win Mag., 35 Whelen, 25-06 and more recently a 257 Roberts all scoped. The 308 with a Weaver V-3, the 264 with a Kahles 2-7, the 35 Whelen & 257 Roberts with Leupold VX-II in 1-4 and the 25-06 with a Leupold VX-II in 2-7.

Can't think of a better dogging rifle than the original 44 Ruger carbine (not fussy on the Deerfield Version), and while dogging, don't remember any shot (or opportunity) at anything over 50 or 60 yards.
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I used to own a Ruger autolosder in 44 Mag that looked like a 10/22 on steroids.
It was a great brush gun and I'm sorry I sold it.
I have seen the odd used one come up for sale and anything that wasn't a beater went for $800-$1000 dollars.
Ruger came out with a later model that had a garand style action.
 
If I were doing that and I had a Ruger 96/44 I'd use it. A .308 or .243 would be better for some opportunities that are unlikely to come up, but it's a chance to use the 96/44 where it will probably be great for most or all of the opportunities that are likely to come up.
 
I like using my 44 in the bush. But every now and again I end up in large clearings that challenge the range of a 44.
 
TheTooner said:
If I were doing that and I had a Ruger 96/44 I'd use it. A .308 or .243 would be better for some opportunities that are unlikely to come up, but it's a chance to use the 96/44 where it will probably be great for most or all of the opportunities that are likely to come up.
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The 96/44 is a handy little levergun and light as a feather.
Paw repaired one for a friend of ours that had been dropped out of a tree stand onto rocks resulting in a damaged stock.
With a LOP adjustment it would have been just right for me.
 
torontogungal said:
The 96/44 is a handy little levergun and light as a feather.
Paw repaired one for a friend of ours that had been dropped out of a tree stand onto rocks resulting in a damaged stock.
With a LOP adjustment it would have been just right for me.
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She said, wistfully. Paw! Hey, Paw! Are you listening?
 
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