Why would you need their PST#...PST is charged to the end user...they would need your PST number (if you want to be PST exempt) if you are business reselling WMs products at a profit.
Sales Tax - actual rules from CRA
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Why would you need their PST#...PST is charged to the end user...they would need your PST number (if you want to be PST exempt) if you are business reselling WMs products at a profit.
Fewer/no customers = no business. THE END.
I think the issue here, Onagoth, is simply this: Western Metal could be in the right to not collect the tax... but will likely go bankrupt for it. It is no different that those who take the plea bargain when they get some bogus firearms charge: they can't afford the lawyer's bill! I mean, they couldn't afford the insurance (Wolverine Supplies thread) or to get a CSSA membership to get a lawyer, so how are they going to afford a lawyer when the bulls!t charge comes up? It sounds like WMI is a sole-proprietorship and that means when the CRA comes after the business they come after his/her spouse & kid's house too.
I think some people have to respect that without some major backing or a huge group of little guys to fight it you are asking WMI to put their kids on the street if they lose this one.
It doesn't make WMI collecting the taxes right when it isn't, its just the fight against CRA advice is too expensive. That's just the way I see it and any/everyone can disagree.
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Sorry to say this WM, but after reading this thread I'll say that I'm glad I bought from the other guys...
The first rule of law: "Anything that is not expressly forbidden is permitted".
As such, the owner of Western Metal should simply ask the CRA which article of law forces them to collect BC's PST on any sales to BC customers. If no clear reference can be made to a law which establishes this requirement, then it isn't a legal requirement.
No Courts are required for this. Administrative law establishes that any public agency can be asked to justify their decisions with law. If they can't legally justify an administrative decision, then it is inapplicable/void. Also, an administrative decision does not and can not supersede a law.
(law school 101)
As such, the owner of Western Metal should simply ask the CRA which article of law forces them to collect BC's PST on any sales to BC customers. If no clear reference can be made to a law which establishes this requirement, then it isn't a legal requirement.
No Courts are required for this. Administrative law establishes that any public agency can be asked to justify their decisions with law. If they can't legally justify an administrative decision, then it is inapplicable/void. Also, an administrative decision does not and can not supersede a law.
(law school 101)
Saying when the gruberment (ie CRA) is about to lose the judge tells them to settle avoiding a lost case for the gruberment.
For the regular Joe would the judge tell them to take a plea bargaining if the judge is about to judge against them, think NOT.
So had the judgement gone the other way for CRA would the judge advice your family member to settle with CRA.
For the regular Joe would the judge tell them to take a plea bargaining if the judge is about to judge against them, think NOT.
So had the judgement gone the other way for CRA would the judge advice your family member to settle with CRA.
Why does everyone keep worrying about the CRA when you are collecting for the BC Gruberment, NOT CRA. CRA has a big hammer, agree don't F with them but is the BC gov't in the same league and in particular any jurisdiction over an Alberta company.
Totally understand CRA tells you to collect all taxes, the darn sharks stick together.
Totally understand CRA tells you to collect all taxes, the darn sharks stick together.
If the company in question registered a provincial collection number they will be required to collect that tax. I have worked in offices that have no requirement to register and do collect and offices that don't. From a liability view point it is simpler to claim the business presence and collect and remit the taxes. If you are certain of your position don't register and don't collect. However provincial laws are all over the place and it is best not to be off side of them.
Question of the day for all the people claiming that they won't pay the additional tax on a item. How many of you have put on your tax returns the amount of taxes you avoided? That is in most provincea a legal requirement. It is to ensure that you pay the sales tax.
Trust me nobody does such a thing. Expect for the odd organization that gets a full audit every year
Question of the day for all the people claiming that they won't pay the additional tax on a item. How many of you have put on your tax returns the amount of taxes you avoided? That is in most provincea a legal requirement. It is to ensure that you pay the sales tax.
Trust me nobody does such a thing. Expect for the odd organization that gets a full audit every year
Many of us reciprocate the BC gruberments honesty in tax in that when the HST was implement after an election promise NOT to NO rebate like ON provided was fiscally possible. That immediately changed when the scrap HST ref. was about to pass; suddently is was fiscally responsible to provide HST reductions/rebate if we keep HST.
BC citizens need to follow the BC Lieberal lead in tax honesty.
Same here, have bought more from Quebec stores lately (ie: X-Reload rocks) than BC stores due to PST hatred. Rather pay the shipping than PST.
BC citizens need to follow the BC Lieberal lead in tax honesty.
Same here, have bought more from Quebec stores lately (ie: X-Reload rocks) than BC stores due to PST hatred. Rather pay the shipping than PST.
Yeah, finally East/West has something in common, even if it is common enemy.
I see it as at least Canada Post is providing service instead of just stealing our hard earn money.
Strong, hatred for PST is. Hmmmmmm.
Has that issues with another AB company in Dec, make it clear no PST or no sales; they did the sales. Provided a small list of CGN sponsors in all major provinces that does not charge PST for out of province sales; too many to list.
For an unique situation look up PST for Lloydminster Saskatchewan, the only city in SK that does NOT charge PST like rest of SK.
I see it as at least Canada Post is providing service instead of just stealing our hard earn money.
Strong, hatred for PST is. Hmmmmmm.
Has that issues with another AB company in Dec, make it clear no PST or no sales; they did the sales. Provided a small list of CGN sponsors in all major provinces that does not charge PST for out of province sales; too many to list.
For an unique situation look up PST for Lloydminster Saskatchewan, the only city in SK that does NOT charge PST like rest of SK.
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