CZ Shadow 2 Trigger Job

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I just had my 1911 undergo a trigger job from Dlask. I have to say, it was the best $80 i spent.

I have a CZ Shadow 2. According to Dlask they normally dont do trigger job on a Shadow 2.

Does anyone know if there are any other gunsmiths in the lower mainland that does trigger job on a shadow 2?
 
The S2 trigger is pretty nice out of the box as is. There's still some room for slicking it up and smoothing out the trigger even more by going with lighter mainsprings (12lb - 11lb) and matching reduced power firing pin spring. You can go lighter (I've seen as low as 10lb) but you'd probably have to use softer primers like Federal in your reloads.

There's also reduced-power trigger and sear springs available but I haven't noticed a whole lot of difference after installing them.

Then there's polishing contact points etc.

Doing the above brought my DA to 7 1/2lbs and SA to 2 1/2lbs. It feels a little lighter now that it's breaking in. I should recheck those numbers.

As NB pointed out, Slavex would be a good person's brain to pick.
 
I don't do anything other some polishing, if needed, on any Shadow, so far the 2's haven't needed it. I use reduced power hammer springs, reduced firing pin spring and reduced recoil springs. That's it. A reduced power sear spring or trigger spring is a giant waste of money in my opinion. As is tweaking those two springs. Why Joe wouldn't offer services on the 2 is beyond me, it's just a CZ inside.
 
Trinimon said:
The S2 trigger is pretty nice out of the box as is. There's still some room for slicking it up and smoothing out the trigger even more by going with lighter mainsprings (12lb - 11lb) and matching reduced power firing pin spring. You can go lighter (I've seen as low as 10lb) but you'd probably have to use softer primers like Federal in your reloads.

There's also reduced-power trigger and sear springs available but I haven't noticed a whole lot of difference after installing them.

Then there's polishing contact points etc.

Doing the above brought my DA to 7 1/2lbs and SA to 2 1/2lbs. It feels a little lighter now that it's breaking in. I should recheck those numbers.

As NB pointed out, Slavex would be a good person's brain to pick.
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i just checked mine with 11# recoil spring and 13# hammer spring. DA was around 6lbs and SA was 1.5lbs
checked with a wheeler digital trigger pull gauge
 
thechineseguy said:
i just checked mine with 11# recoil spring and 13# hammer spring. DA was around 6lbs and SA was 1.5lbs
checked with a wheeler digital trigger pull gauge
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You either got a real nice trigger or an inaccurate gauge. Have tested multiple Shadow 2's with both a Lyman digital gauge as well as a homemade weight based setup prior to buying the Lyman and even with 10 & 11 pound Hammer springs haven't seen one more than a few ounces under 7lbs in DA or better than 2lbs 2 ozs in SA.
 
thechineseguy said:
i just checked mine with 11# recoil spring and 13# hammer spring. DA was around 6lbs and SA was 1.5lbs
checked with a wheeler digital trigger pull gauge
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That's a HUGE improvement over what others have reported. I do think I wasn't one of the lucky ones and my S2 is falls on the heavier trigger pull side. That said, it's still pretty sweet. I've got a 10lb hammer spring from my last order and may give that a try and see if I get light primer hits. I like the 2.5lb trigger pull but wouldn't mind a lighter DA.
 
Chilidip said:
You either got a real nice trigger or an inaccurate gauge. Have tested multiple Shadow 2's with both a Lyman digital gauge as well as a homemade weight based setup prior to buying the Lyman and even with 10 & 11 pound Hammer springs haven't seen one more than a few ounces under 7lbs in DA or better than 2lbs 2 ozs in SA.
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I agree. I had mine extensively polished and have the 13lb hammer spring cut a little and my DA is at about 6.5lb and single is between 2 and 2.5lbs.
 
Chilidip said:
You either got a real nice trigger or an inaccurate gauge. Have tested multiple Shadow 2's with both a Lyman digital gauge as well as a homemade weight based setup prior to buying the Lyman and even with 10 & 11 pound Hammer springs haven't seen one more than a few ounces under 7lbs in DA or better than 2lbs 2 ozs in SA.
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i hope i got a great trigger and its not an inaccurate gauge as i purchased it brand new and only used it a few times.

is there a way to test the accuracy of the gauge?
 
thechineseguy said:
i hope i got a great trigger and its not an inaccurate gauge as i purchased it brand new and only used it a few times.

is there a way to test the accuracy of the gauge?
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If you have an accurate scale (kitchen scale) you could try the homemade setup with a pail/bottle and coat hanger and weigh the amount of water out to what you believe your trigger pull is then carefully place the hanger on the trigger and slowly lift up the gun and weight. Also make sure you are following the directions with your gauge as I know on the Lyman you can manipulate the results based on where you place the hook and how you pull the trigger.
 
I worked on S2 recently for first time and here are my observations.
- I felt SA reset was long and recoil spring was too stiff for minor loads.
- hammer was good but comp hammer made it better
- replacing factory disco that's already good with pre B disco reduced SA reset further
- sights are too tall for my liking
 
carsmovies said:
I agree. I had mine extensively polished and have the 13lb hammer spring cut a little and my DA is at about 6.5lb and single is between 2 and 2.5lbs.
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'cut a little'? Maybe I'm misunderstanding or I remember incorrectly, but doesn't cutting/shortening a spring make it stiffer rather than lighter?
 
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GR0M said:
'cut a little'? Maybe I'm misunderstanding or I remember incorrectly, but doesn't cutting/shortening a spring make it stiffer rather than lighter?
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Lol. Where did you read that? Maybe your confused by the fact that the 13lb spring is longer than the original factory spring? Shortening any spring makes it lighter.
 
Where are you guys getting your Shadow 2 parts from? Specifically your lighter 10 and 11 lb. hammer, recoil springs and buffers? Also, anyone know where you can get spare Shadow 2 slide stop. (Note, Shadow 1 slide stop won't work in the S2.)

So far have had to patch together various CZ spare parts from Select Shooting Supplies, Dlask, Tenda and FOC. Their parts inventories however are hit and miss and some parts are so steep you almost want to buy another shadow as a parts gun.
 
Northaways said:
Where are you guys getting your Shadow 2 parts from? Specifically your lighter 10 and 11 lb. hammer, recoil springs and buffers? Also, anyone know where you can get spare Shadow 2 slide stop. (Note, Shadow 1 slide stop won't work in the S2.)

So far have had to patch together various CZ spare parts from Select Shooting Supplies, Dlask, Tenda and FOC. Their parts inventories however are hit and miss and some parts are so steep you almost want to buy another shadow as a parts gun.
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Slavex brought a few S2 slidestops in directly from Europe. They weren't cheap to bring in, but at least he was able to get some for us. He has springs, pins and other assorted parts too. Shoot him a pm to see if he has any left.
 
Roger that. Thx guys!

Recall CGW had lots of well priced CZ parts but when I looked in to buying discovered they did not ship to Canada. Have they changed their shipping policy?
 
carsmovies said:
Lol. Where did you read that? Maybe your confused by the fact that the 13lb spring is longer than the original factory spring? Shortening any spring makes it lighter.
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Actually he is correct, but because your putting the now shorter spring back into a spot made for a longer spring it feels lighter because its not compressed as much at the start. If the shortened spring was compressed the same amount as the original, the rate of compression and total compressed rate would actually be higher.

Also a hammer spring is designed to have a reasonably even rate of compression in its designed distance of travel, from start of pull till the point the trigger breaks and the hammer falls, shortening a hammer spring changes that rate dramatically, although now slightly lighter fully compressed it will be much lighter at the start which means it will make the double action pull get progressively stiffer thru its distance of travel, for the price of a hammer spring its much better to just by the weight you want than to cut it.
 
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