Think it'll work? Axis .223

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So I got a nice little Axis in .223 and left hand and I did this to it;

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These are UTG 10-22 clamp on sights for bases and the original front post but i thought it could work with this setup. Test firing it tomorrow to see if they stay on, but so far they are pretty steady and tight. If it works it will be a fun rifle to carry around in the fields and try to pop rodents and Yotes with. I'm probably going to get a one piece rail in order to mount other optics, keeping my options open.

What do you guys think? Is the bubba strong with this one, or do you think it will work?

Dan.
 
I wouldn't trust that clamp on front site. Just the littlest bump and it will spin on the barrel. It would be fine for target shooting but I wouldn't hunt with it.
 
it seems your rear sight may be too tall. but I look forward to learn your range result.
 
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I should have said that the front sight does have a screw to tighten it onto the barrel so it isn't just a fit on and go... You do have to tighten it down.
 
Firing the rifle will only shift the front sight forward or backward (likely forward due to recoil) not really affecting your zero. If you hit the tip of the barrel against anything while hunting, a branch or fence while climbing over, really an infinite number of possibilities the sight while be bumped sideways spinning it on the barrel. That will drastically change your zero and could mean missing or worse wounding an animal.
I'd pass on that system for sure.

But like I said, for target shooting it would be fine.
 
My question is why? For a .223 you'd be far better served to add an optic......if it's speed to target acquisition perhaps a red dot of some kind. Even so I'd still suggest a low mag scope would be a better choice.

As for if it will work.....if you are on the correct focal plane, if the sight is locked down solid and if you have installed it straight? It should work.

That's a lot of ifs
 
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cdn1canhunt said:
My question is why? For a .223 you'd be far better served to add an optic......if it's speed to target acquisition perhaps a red dot of some kind. Even so I'd still suggest a low mag scope would be a better choice.

As for if it will work.....if you are on the correct focal plane, if the sight is locked down solid and if you have installed it straight? It should work.

That's a lot of ifs
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Ah, but why not? ;) And yes I do agree that red dots and scopes are a better way to go for practicality but it will be tested a lot before being put to any use for any hunting application. It is nice to have the option of Irons though and some people enjoy the challenge of using irons more than optics. For now it will be used for plinking and thrashing around to see just how well the irons hold up to abuse. I think a one peice rail will be the next purchase so I can have both mounted with some quick detach rings as well.

All in good time...And fun.
 
I think that you could fire hundreds or thousands of rounds through that rifle without budging those sights; the .223 just won't develop enough recoil to move that front sight forward. However, as stated, any slight bump or tap on that sight will knock it out of whack.

If you're just plinking at targets, no big deal...but I surely wouldn't tote that into the field looking for varmints. Any quarry deserves a humane kill, and that sight will be bumped out of adjustment sooner rather than later. If you insist on pursuing this, maybe a hole drilled through the front sight band and fitted with a setscrew that engages into a divot drilled into the barrel would stabilize the band. Is it metal or plastic?
 
Never mind the naysayers. Iron sights have their place, and IMHO, too few riflemen work towards competence with them. Your setup will either work as you anticipate, or it won't. If it works all is good, if not, some adjustments will have to be made so it does.

The first challenge will be to see if the height of the front sight is consistent with a usable zero. The second challenge will be to see if the sights hold zero, first at the range then in the field. If barrel vibration through numerous firings doesn't loosen the sights at the range, take it afield. Your first few forays should be made without giving the rifle any extraordinary care, but shooting only at inanimate targets until such time that the sights have proven themselves.

If the front sight does rotate, a smear of glass bed, epoxy, or JB Weld will solve that problem. A rifle that shoots low can be brought to zero by carefully filing down the height of the front sight. A more difficult problem is a rifle that shoots too high, when the front post is already the highest commonly available. This is when you look for a machinist/gunsmith who can make you one at exorbitant cost, or you have to search around for a higher front sight base. Enjoy your project.
 
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Boomer said:
Never mind the naysayers. Iron sights have their place, and IMHO, too few riflemen work towards competence with them. Your setup will either work as you anticipate, or it won't. If it works all is good, if not, some adjustments will have to be made so it does.

The first challenge will be to see if the height of the front sight is consistent with a usable zero. The second challenge will be to see if the sights hold zero, first at the range then in the field. If barrel vibration through numerous firings doesn't loosen the sights at the range, take it afield. Your first few forays should be made without giving the rifle any extraordinary care, but shooting only at inanimate targets until such time that the sights have proven themselves.

If the front sight does rotate, a smear of glass bed, epoxy, or JB Weld will solve that problem. A rifle that shoots low can be brought to zero by carefully filing down the height of the front sight. A more difficult problem is a rifle that shoots too high, when the front post is already the highest commonly available. This is when you look for a machinist/gunsmith who can make you one at exorbitant cost, or you have to search around for a higher front sight base. Enjoy your project.
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Fixed it for you
 
Boomer said:
Never mind the naysayers. Iron sights have their place, and IMHO, too few riflemen work towards competence with them. Your setup will either work as you anticipate, or it won't. If it works all is good, if not, some adjustments will have to be made so it does.

The first challenge will be to see if the height of the front sight is consistent with a usable zero. The second challenge will be to see if the sights hold zero, first at the range then in the field. If barrel vibration through numerous firings doesn't loosen the sights at the range, take it afield. Your first few forays should be made without giving the rifle any extraordinary care, but shooting only at inanimate targets until such time that the sights have proven themselves.

If the front sight does rotate, a smear of glass bed, epoxy, or JB Weld will solve that problem. A rifle that shoots low can be brought to zero by carefully filing down the height of the front sight. A more difficult problem is a rifle that shoots too high, when the front post is already the highest commonly available. This is when you look for a machinist/gunsmith who can make you one at exorbitant cost, or you have to search around for a higher front sight base. Enjoy your project.
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Great advice, both front and rear sights are adjustable so hopefully I can adjust it without limiting it out. I'll see what the Laser bore sight will do for starters and then go from there. Hopefully get on paper right away and adjust from there, and see if the sight gets worked off.
 
so far 20 rounds through and no movement of the front post at all, so I will set up a target and take a few offhand shots and a few benched shots and see what kind of groups I can get. I believe it shoots a bit high but that is okay. Rifle works great, not a bad trigger pull and no problems feeding. Once again I will take some pictures of some groups i get.
 
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