Why i'm shooting down-left?
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af_newbie2
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The guy is so right.
Do you want to see if you move the gun when you pull the trigger? Put an empty shell on the front sight, pull the trigger, if the case does not fall, you are ok. Practice dry fire until the case stays on the front sight every time you pull the trigger.
Then go to the range to test your skills.
Everybody can aim their front sights, not everybody can pull the trigger without disturbing the gun.
Lonesome Donkey
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Shooting low and to the left?
Possibly repressed Liberal tendencies.....
Possibly repressed Liberal tendencies.....
af_newbie2
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Only you can fix this problem. No professional training will fix that.
You are not pulling your trigger straight back. You are pushing your gun to the left. The low part is due to your improper grip and/or anticipating recoil.
Put an empty 9mm case on your front sight and dry fire until the case stays there every time you pull the trigger. First try with SA then do DA.
shooting low to the left is caused by squeezing all your fingers on the grip while squeezing the trigger. this will pull the muzzle down and left.
it can be fixed by holding the gun tighter, therefore you are less likely to tighten your fingers on the grip while squeezing the trigger because they are already tight.
hope this helps,
Brownie
it can be fixed by holding the gun tighter, therefore you are less likely to tighten your fingers on the grip while squeezing the trigger because they are already tight.
hope this helps,
Brownie
It also helps to lock out your support hand wrist - point your support thumb dead level with the line of the frame, and extend it until until your wrist 'breaks'. Lots of folks don't properly extend the support thumb, the finger tips of your support hand should be pointing upward at a 45 degree angle, it buys you a little forgiveness for wiggle.
As stated by several sight picture is important. You may wish to review your grip. Dave Sevigny used a technique that's part of Frank Proctor's training courses. Search these folks and watch the grip technique. I believe Hand Guns may still have a short video on their sight called Grip Technique For Recoil, that shows the grip and comments on low left target strikes.
This thread has been a big help! Today I was able to shrink my groups (15 rounds @ 10m) from a slanted oval 8" x 16" , to a 6" circle with a TT33
However, the circle is still a couple of inches to the left of point of aim, nothing ever goes to the right.
However, the circle is still a couple of inches to the left of point of aim, nothing ever goes to the right.
This thread has been a big help! Today I was able to shrink my groups (15 rounds @ 10m) from a slanted oval 8" x 16" , to a 6" circle with a TT33
However, the circle is still a couple of inches to the left of point of aim, nothing ever goes to the right.
If you have fairly large hands the TT is a rather small grip size. Take a little extra care to ensure the gun is held neutrally or centered in your grip. When your hand is on the gun and your wrist is in a natural straight out hold the gun should line up naturally with your arm. Adjust your hand around the gun to achieve this. Almost always this means the beaver tail sits centered in the web of your thumb to forefinger.
From there try to find the most neutral position of your trigger finger on the trigger. You can test this a little with some dry firing using a one hand grip. Squeeze the trigger with a smooth pressure build to the break and watch for the sights jumping. If you notice ANY movement at all adjust your trigger finger a little to make it go away. A smooth proper trigger pull should not make the sights twitch at all. Nada, zip,
Focus on a full pull all the way back. And learn to keep holding the trigger back through all the recoil and only release it to reset while sighting the next shot. That will aid you in a good follow through.
Your improvement is a really positive one but you've still got a long way to go to reach the roughly 1.5 to 2 inch group you should have at 10 yards. Find that neutral spot and focus on a smooth pressure build and follow through hold and it should help a lot. A 6 inch size group suggests that you're still slightly snatching at the trigger. Not AS bad but a little is still going on. Or you're too fast to release the trigger so you're clutching it a little instead of the focus on the smooth pressure build.
It'a a small grip so it wants to kick in your hand. But it will hurt the group size if you get a death grip on it. Try to aim for a grip pressure more like you'd use on a baseball bat or a tennis racket or even a construction hammer. Firm yes, but a pressure you can maintain for a good while. Easing up a little if you are holding too hard will also make it easier for your trigger finger to move without the rest of your hand and fingers trying to move in sympathy.
Thanks, ^^ this is going to help me focus on bringing it all together.
You are right and I know it, once the gun starts firing I go faster and faster.
regarding holding the trigger fully to the rear until the sights are back on target, and then releasing to the click (commonly known as the trigger reset drill), do not put too much time into this, most especially if you are intending to do any kind of action shooting. Learn to reset under recoil, you still get the right follow through and don't learn a bad habit.
Got any tips for practicing this? Do you go by rhythm or simply reaction time? I "feel" that I'm resetting under recoil but under video I'm still slow. Also I'm still not in the habit of removing the slack following the reset.
