How about some double autos

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Since there are a few threads running about this and that, I figured why not see how many double autos in different variations our forum members have.
I'll start with mine.
Top gun is a twenty weight. This is one fine pointing semi-auto and is a dandy upland gun when the semi-auto urge strikes me. Problem is, my future son-in-law wants to buy it.
Second gun belonged to our Manitoba Premier "Duff" Roblin. James, you will recognize it---and thanks.
Third is one I picked up for the different colored receiver. I've had a couple of chances to buy some of the harder to find colored receivers but they were "cost prohibitive".
Who else out there has a/some double autos!

 
I also have a trio of DA's. My Dad's Twelvette Dragon Black bought new in 1963. A two barrel set Skeet and Trap belonged to my Dad's Uncle in Satin Grey also Twelvette. And a steel reciever Standard with a Cutts that in picked up on this site. No idea how to post pics unfortunately!
 
Lovely guns. I've come close to buying one a couple of times. Probably not a factor, but the barrels aren't steel rated.
 
Found some pretty beat up ones for cheap, but never pulled the trigger. Saw a green one at epps for under 400 maybe 10yrs back, should've bought one then.
 
$400.00 would be darn cheap today for a green one, unless there was nothing left to the gun. One has to watch though, as over the years Arts Gun Shop did a number of guns that he colored the receivers on for clients, so there are a number of non original guns out there.
 
Thats green one has maybe 25% bluing left on barrel and the stock rode on the bed of a gravel truck it looks like. If i had free cash then i would have bought it providing its still functional.
 
Brian, apparently you are the only owner of Browning Double Autos on gunnutz, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER PICS.

I have an excuse.....I sold Brian my Double Auto. What's yours??
 
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They are lovely shooters: Mine is a Twelvette with ribbed skeet choke barrel and plain full choke barrel. Only limited interested in it when I listed it for sale last winter. I used it on skeet a few times last summer without the rubbish slip on pad, and recoil was more like a 20gauge.

I wish it had come into my possession with it's original plastic buttplate. I'll have to fit a proper rubber one and list it again as it is still surplus to my needs.
 
Sure is on my bucket list.
John Moses Brownings ideer of a side by side in the single barrel.
Makes for a nice light shooter.


Actually Looky it wasn't a John Moses design.

http://www.randywakeman.com/BrowningDoubleAutoValBrowningsFinest.htm


Though not a great commercial success, the Browning Double Auto is a remarkable shotgun. The numbers of a firearm produced has never been a good barometer of quality, innovation, or desirability. Just because there are lots of MacDonald's cheeseburgers, Bic lighters, and cans of Budweiser sold every year doesn't make these products particularly good or satisfying. There are lots of marketing studies out there and those that sell this information. Some of it requires no great study at all. If it is on the shelf at anti-2nd Amendment Wal-Mart, it is doing some significant numbers.


Val Allen Browning, son of “John Mose,” held some forty-eight firearms patents himself. It was Val Browning who completed the Superposed and the Hi-Power: John Browning himself never lived to see a production copy of either. The “speed loading” associated with A-5 and other Browning shotguns is a Val Browning idea, patent applied for in 1950, awarded in 1952.


Val Browning's Double Auto is one of the most innovative shotguns ever devised. The idea behind the Double Auto was to eliminate the unsightly forearm nut and offer quick barrel removal without detaching the forearm itself. It further was devised to save weight, bulk, and to soften shock both upon firing and when the barrel returns forward to battery. The first firearm and only firearm sold by the Browning Arms Company, founded after the passing of J.M.B., was the A-5, later joined by the Superposed. The third shotgun offering was the Double Automatic, added in 1954-1955 in the United States, after the original 1952 flop in Europe.
The Double Auto was devised to equal the handling, trigger quality, and responsiveness of the best double guns, with less cost and less recoil than possible with fixed breech guns. The superb balance of the Double Auto was achieved by complete elimination of the magazine tube. It is hard to find a center mass weighted gun with a tubular magazine with stuff hanging off of it; the Double Auto did away with it. The Double Auto features speed loading and speed unloading as well. The safety was made to be ambidextrous, so it was attached to the back of the trigger guard.


Despite its ostensibly simple design, it required a great amount of handwork to make. The Double Auto stocks were all checkered by hand, the receivers were all engraved by hand. The actions were all fitted with more handwork than you'll find today. As a result, the Double Auto was a costly shotgun to produce, selling for more than the already legendary A-5. It was billed as "Tomorrow's Gun Today."

The exact production numbers aren't readily available, but they were low. From 1954 - 1972, the total number of Twelvette models produced were around 65,000 units, according to Ned Schwing. Yet, the demand for Double Autos was such that although catalogued for about eighteen years, in some years there was no manufacture of certain models at all according to Browning expert Jeff Tyler. Exact data remains murky, even according to the very knowledgeable staff at Art's Gun Shop.


For those that like the idea of a low maintenance shotgun, not only did the Double Auto need essentially no maintenance, the owner's manual actually cautioned against it. It reads, "It is unnecessary, and may likely be damaging, to have a gun taken apart annually for routine cleaning and oiling of the of inner mechanism." Aside from standard barrel cleaning and a light film of oil on exposed metal, you were allowed one small drop of oil on the breechblock and barrel extension guides.


As far as "tomorrow's gun today," that wasn't all that far off the mark. As you can tell from the Browning catalog specs above, great attention was paid to the weights of the various models, none of which require adjustment to change from light target to heavier field loads. The "Twentyweight" was intended to replace 20 gauges, offering lighter weight and less recoil than most 20s, while the Twelvette was intended to offer 12 gauge performance with the carry weight and responsiveness of 16 gauges.


The amazing thing, to me, is that this was all done fifty-seven years ago. Alloy receivers in shotguns didn't get universal respect until the early 1980s, colored receivers are reappearing just now, the idea of "Superlight" is presented as a somewhat new idea, yet the Twentyweight is a bit lighter than the "world's lightest" 12 gauge autoloader, the Benelli Ultra-Light. The fast locktime of the Double Auto and the elimination of the fore end screw cap was only just recently touted in the form of the Browning Maxus.


The Double Auto steel version gained favor on the skeet field but then again the A-5 and other FN licensed Automatic-Five variations had long held that distinction as well. The Double Auto had and has what many shooters claim to want: low maintenance, effortless cleaning, light weight, all load capability with no adjustments, center mass balance, and is one of the few shotguns ever made that truly "hits like a 12, but carries like a 20." All this, with a slim forearm, extremely fast cycling, and the shortest receiver ever put on an autoloader. The Double Auto is also faster to reload than any break-action and faster than most autoloaders as well.


Despite all this, it wasn't profitable enough to remain viable as a production item. In 1963, the cheaper Remington 1100 was introduced with a quick and high level of acceptance. Handwork was becoming increasingly expensive and the Browning relationship with B.C. Miroku started around 1965. When the A-5 tooling and production was implemented at B.C. Miroku during 1976, the Double Auto had no comparable market share or demand to indicate reintroduction in Japan.


As a matter of sheer opinion, it ranks as one of the three best autoloaders ever produced that just didn't truly make it in a commercial sense, the others being far later introductions. The Browning 2000 (a.k.a. B-2000) and the Winchester Super-X Model, two steel receivered gas guns, coincidentally both flailed about from 1974-1981. As responsive upland field guns, neither of the other two in 12 gauge remotely compares to the carry all day prowess of the Double Auto, particularly in Twelvette or Twentyweight configurations. The Double Auto remains Val Browning's wingshooting masterwork: the most innovative and important shotgun introduced in the 1950s.


A vintage Browning Double Auto Manual is here, for your entertainment pleasure: BrowningDoubleAutoManual.pdf .
 
Still on me bucket list Frankie.
Managed to X one off the list and that was a Belgium BAR in .308win I have wanted
since I was a kid.
Got one off here for a song.
Going to be my hunting companion in this area this year if she can do a job at the range.
 
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