Understood. The scrap of paper you see is the entire target page. In this case, the scrap was cut from a used B-27 full-size silhouette target. I can make a number of 3" x 7" targets from something like that, saving paper and money. Another "aim small, hit small" strategy is to shoot at the staples left behind on most target boards by previous users of the range. It is easiest when the sun is behind you, as the staples glisten in the sunlight. Trying to cut those staples in two with a .22 rifle will sharpen your focus.
My 22 shoots 1/2" groups at 50 yards/meters all day! Really? Prove it!
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Understood. The scrap of paper you see is the entire target page. In this case, the scrap was cut from a used B-27 full-size silhouette target. I can make a number of 3" x 7" targets from something like that, saving paper and money. Another "aim small, hit small" strategy is to shoot at the staples left behind on most target boards by previous users of the range. It is easiest when the sun is behind you, as the staples glisten in the sunlight. Trying to cut those staples in two with a .22 rifle will sharpen your focus.
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I use checkplot paper. 40" wide, contiunuous roll. shoot one round, then aim at the hole, and send the next 9 through it. I eschew printed targets... too many distracting lines, and poor contrast.
Checkplot is snow white, and CHEAP at 11 bucks for a 90'rollx42" wide.
Sounds like a good idea. The crosshairs on a Leupold BR-24X scope are so fine that they become lost on a black bull. Targets with grid lines are even worse, as the fine crosshairs get lost in all the lines. I much prefer to shoot at plain white targets when using this scope/rifle combo.
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It works great. So cheap and a dead nuts way to zero a rifle. Any decent print shop that deals with large format printer supplies can supply the paper. Verious widths are avail from 24-50"
Sorry minimouse, but I can't count it as a successful attempt. The groups must be on a full sheet of paper that hasn't been trimmed and with no other holes on the page.
Well, your rules, my friend. I shot five groups of five shots each, none of which was larger than 1/2", uncorrected for bullet diameter. The target strip I shot at was three inches wide--plenty of room for groups less than 1/2" wide. The length of the strip was 7" long--plenty of room for five groups, shot from top to bottom, all of them less than 1/2" at their widest point. I suppose it is excess target paper which makes a "vaild" group. I could care less. It is still the best five shot, five group target I've ever shot.
Don't sweat it Mini ,I like the challenge so it's a good excuse to try again.Rules are rules.With those results I don't think you'll have a problem completing the challenge.All in good fun.I myself an a few other 's like to add a few yards for an extra challenge.I usually go 52-54 yds .
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Anschutz 1416
Bushnell 6-24 x 40
Lapua CenterX
Breezy but Clear
Shot off a bipod and a rear sandbag.
.245
.414
.297
.494
.454
Average: 0.3808
It is really hard to get a caliper inside the photo copy cover to scan but the scan gives better quality.
The scope is going to go to my .22/250 and that 6-24 will be on this rifle. It was put on yesterday and I ran out of elevation trying to sight in at 50 yards. Took the scope out of the rings and reversed the rings but at the range today showed no appreciable change. The scope is a Bushnell 4200 Elite and while called a long range scope it should still be within range at 50 or 100 yards with some adjustment left.
Problem with Photo Bucket as the cropped picture will not save . . . tomorrow is another day.
The problem has now corrected itself.
I have always contended it is the largest group that should be measured and the size of the bullet hole should be something other than 0.224.
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I see no definite aiming point on any of the five groups I call this almost unbelievable until U can show me your aiming points
I hold the smallest 5 shot 5 group target at 100 yards in Canada with moving backers and I see no aiming points. Jeff
I hold the smallest 5 shot 5 group target at 100 yards in Canada with moving backers and I see no aiming points. Jeff
Using the "aim small, hit small" strategy, I affix a piece of paper (often cut from scraps) approx. 7" x 3" to the target board vertically, then shoot 5 groups from top to bottom. I place the crosshairs in the top center of this strip of paper and fire the first round. I then try to put shots two, three, four, and five thru the same hole. I then hold about 1" lower for the next group and repeat the process of firing one round into the center, and trying to put the next four thru the same hole. The rifle used was an Anschutz 54.18 with a Leupold BR-24X scope, shooting Eley 10X off Caldwell rests front and rear, at 50 yards. Using .210" as my constant, the group sizes top to bottom were .174", .104", .276", .156", and .270", for an average group size of .196". (Note: target strip is placed sideways below only for easier reference. It was shot, lengthwise, from top to bottom, as shown in the second target pic.)
Another pic, showing the entire 7" x 3" target.
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Why would you need an aiming point? If a rifle is that accurate I'd imagine you could use the first shot hole as a "target" especially with a 24x scope as he did.
The target apparently doesn't count as in post 848 even though in the rules it doesn't say anything about using a specific target size or a full target paper sheet and he doesn't seem to care as to post 851.
I have put up dots on the top of a paper and jacked my scope up 3-4 inches and shot groups above it on another sheet to save dots, aiming point and form stay consistent and just replace top sheet and keep on going.
Question for you - what are moving backers? And if you have the smallest 100yd groups in Canada why do you not have any rifles in this challenge? What set up are you running? Thx
The rules state that there must be five 5 shot groups on the same paper and there must not be any other holes in the official target. So when you cut out your 5 groups from the rest of the target, it can't be seen that there wasn't any other holes in the target.
Re-read my post. I aim at the center of the paper, fire the first round, then aim at the hole made by that first round. Shots two, three, four, and five are made in that fashion. For the next group, I hold an inch or two lower, aim at the center of the paper, and do it all over again, repeating the procedure until five groups are fired. This isn't rocket science and I don't care what you think of my methods.
Rod has already determined that my target doesn't fit the rules of this particular thread, and, really, I didn't expect it to be accepted anyway. Nonetheless, it is the best five shot, five group target I've ever shot, and I am justifiably proud of it. Rod has my appreciation for starting this thread and for monitoring it as it goes along. Thanks Rod!
Nice shooting Horseman2. I added you to the successful list.
Anschutz 1416
Bushnell 6-24 x 40
Lapua CenterX
Breezy but Clear
Shot off a bipod and a rear sandbag.
.245
.414
.297
.494
.454
Average: 0.3808
It is really hard to get a caliper inside the photo copy cover to scan but the scan gives better quality.
The scope is going to go to my .22/250 and that 6-24 will be on this rifle. It was put on yesterday and I ran out of elevation trying to sight in at 50 yards. Took the scope out of the rings and reversed the rings but at the range today showed no appreciable change. The scope is a Bushnell 4200 Elite and while called a long range scope it should still be within range at 50 or 100 yards with some adjustment left.
Problem with Photo Bucket as the cropped picture will not save . . . tomorrow is another day.
The problem has now corrected itself.
I have always contended it is the largest group that should be measured and the size of the bullet hole should be something other than 0.224.
