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Hey CGN'ers,

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the ATA o/u sp's. You have seen them going online for about 1k new. They are a Turkish gun with some very beretta-esk looking style. Please do not reply with "save your money for a used B-gun," or "its Turkish, so that should answer your question," or the standard response given to anyone asking about a CZ, Yildiz, etc...

I am looking for people with experience and their thoughts. As a refresher, here is the product. http://ataarms.com/en/sp.php?modelID=53

thanks in advance.
 
I think this is the same shotgun Weatherby is selling under there name, I have not fired one but have handled one. Fit and finish is good, has same lock up system as Beretta 686, gun gets good reviews.
 
This is in response to Kenny... No, far from it. But it sounds to me everyone is becoming brand-blind and answering questions without experience.

Essentially I'm trying to weed through the b/s and talk to people who "actually" own the gun and get their true perspective. If I wanted another beretta I would buy one. I find a lot of people comment just on brand name without ever handeling one, seeing one, shooting one etc... that kinda help I don't need.

If we all strictly shopped brand name then we should all be wearing Holt-Renfrew to go hunting in.... I'm sure they are greaaaaattt.
 
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For 1k what do you expect out of it?
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That's the thing, the stores in this area (GTA) do not carry this product so I have nothing to go with when it comes to comparison or expectations. That's why I am hoping people who have more a familiarity with the product can tell me about how it has been preforming and their thoughts.
 
fair enough, didn't mean anything negative, with my reply.
I see a lot of shotguns, shoot likely 6k a year at targets. I have not had any feed back good or bad about the gun you speak of. However I will say that most Turkish imports are of sub quality, and most that buy them at our club deal them within a year. So my comments are made, due to observations and not just pulled out of thin air. Process control is something that is necessary, to maintain good quality. This means controlling things like steel hardness, fit up and finish on metal parts, thread cutting quality, so on. These Turkish guns seems to drift from reasonable quality to poor and all places in-between. They have little control on their process. I have seen some improvement of late with some Turkish autos. The O/U still lags behind. The single trigger assembly in these guns are very precise and complicated to make. This is where a lot of issues with these gun will turn up. I am a manufacturing engineer, and when I see this stuff it drives me nuts. So sometimes I speak when I should let it pass. Good luck with a decision on your gun, hope you have no regrets.
 
Kenny said:
fair enough, didn't mean anything negative, with my reply.
I see a lot of shotguns, shoot likely 6k a year at targets. I have not had any feed back good or bad about the gun you speak of. However I will say that most Turkish imports are of sub quality, and most that buy them at our club deal them within a year. So my comments are made, due to observations and not just pulled out of thin air. Process control is something that is necessary, to maintain good quality. This means controlling things like steel hardness, fit up and finish on metal parts, thread cutting quality, so on. These Turkish guns seems to drift from reasonable quality to poor and all places in-between. They have little control on their process. I have seen some improvement of late with some Turkish autos. The O/U still lags behind. The single trigger assembly in these guns are very precise and complicated to make. This is where a lot of issues with these gun will turn up. I am a manufacturing engineer, and when I see this stuff it drives me nuts. So sometimes I speak when I should let it pass. Good luck with a decision on your gun, hope you have no regrets.
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As an engineer I appreciate your perspective, metallurgy and quality control is important to me as well and has given me some food for thought.
 
I haven't shot the ata however every brand has flaws. I've seen several new Berettas break down recently. I traded for a new in the box tristar made by khan. Fantastic bluing. Gun internals horrible. It was a gunsmithing course in disguise. If ata and tristar share any components avoid them. Turkey produces many guns and many parts for big name company's. Quality is as mentioned hit or miss. I've been impressed with the Churchill 206 and yildz. The new Stevens ou and mossberg ou and canuck ou seem lacking in quality

I'd buy another turkish gun if I could see and handle it in person.
If you're looking for a hunting gun or a gun to try a new gauge in they're decent value. If you plan on trying heavy competition they're likely not the gun you're after
 
It is not "brand blind" to recommend a reliable gunmaker. I am not going to be the first person to try a "who ever heard of them?" firearm, nor to recommend them.
Without any service or parts infrastructure, a firearm from a new entry supplier is just so much scrap when it fails. In Canada it is tough enough to get parts for the best brands.
It is very unlikely that you can buy a firearm for a half or a third of the price of a reliable brand and get anywhere near equivalent quality.
 
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