Mystery Part

[sean69]

I have a couple Win 1885 low walls in here for re-stock jobs.

The original fore end has a cut out in the rear, but no corresponding part on the receiver (both guns, no part)! A bit of googling finds this pic:

The missing part is circled, the action seems to work just fine without it. I thought it may have something to do with the extractor ~ which is a little 'floppy', the owner speculated that it may be something to do with a take down model.

A. What is it?
B. Can the gun get along (safely) without it?


Don't see the point in removing the extra material from the blank if the part is not needed.....

-thanks
-sean

 

[trevj]

By memory, it was part of the rimfire extractor/ejector system on the coil spring guns.

Will check my Campbell books and get back to you today.

Cheers
Trev

 

[trevj]

I'll go with Ejector Spring Mechanism for a Flat Spring Low Wall. The Rimfire ejector had a cam surface that the spring acted against, to make it slide over and snap the case clear of the action.

He describes them as being of one of two types, one with a flat spring, the other with a coil (with regards to the ejector spring, not mainspring), but does not show details well that I was able to find in a few minutes flipping through.

The takedowns were pretty much a solid flat across the front face, not relieved for the forearm like that is, and had a screw in about the same area to use to take up the play. They also used an interrupted thread for the barrel.

So, the ejector should snap open, when the action is properly assembled and complete. If the action is not being re barreled to a rimfire, the owner may not care if it isn't there, but that was the intended purpose as I have been able to ascertain.

Cheers
Trev

 

[pjs]

The gun is or was a .22 rimfire. It used an ejector that was different than the regular extractor. If your gun is centerfire then it does not need the cutout in the forend. I have a Winder musket forend here that has that same flat bottomed hole milled in for the screw head. You could always mill it in later if you had to.

 

[sean69]

thanks - yes. what I have here is a conversion to center fire. the current extractor relies on a camming action to operate. the spring is not needed. It could use one just to keep the extractor from flopping around. but that wouldn't make it function any better (or worse)

thanks guys.

-sean

 

[trevj]

thanks - yes. what I have here is a conversion to center fire. the current extractor relies on a camming action to operate. the spring is not needed. It could use one just to keep the extractor from flopping around. but that wouldn't make it function any better (or worse)

thanks guys.

-sean

The only time the extractor should have any movement is when the action is almost wide open and the chamber empty. Not really a problem, as I see it.

Cheers
Trev