One Countries new perspective on Blaze hunter Safety

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I have been discussing this lately with some fellow Australian hunters and actually thought you guys might not have ever seen or heard of the new Blaze..

but there is a slight problem that you will most likely think about as soon as you hear of the new Hunter Safety Blaze , it has something to do with the Deers eyesight...

Have you heard of Blue Blaze before? or even seen it?

You may not have but theres been some research and testing gone into it and to understand it you would have to be aware with NZs amount of Hunter accidents where a hunter has Died. ill get to that later


"Blue is a colour not commonly seen in the bush, helping hunters distinguish each other from the backdrop" "I know a lot of people that use it, it's definitely becoming more popular than the orange."


"Mr Sanders believed as the orange faded to appear ''rusty'' it became more easy to mistake for the colour of a deer.
''The blue is very different in the bush and I believe it would make you look twice,'' Mr Sanders said"
an this article https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/queenstown-lakes/blaze-blue-taking-safer-hunter-colour

Mount Maunganui-based hunting gear manufacturer Stoney Creek has launched a new safety colour for its high-visibility clothing range.
Called Blaze Blue, the blue option comes as a result of the New Zealand Mountain Safety Council's (NZMSC) Colour Recognition Project.
The project was carried out as part of the police's research into the deaths of hunters. Police paid for it.
The aim was to ascertain what colours were most visible in a range of hunting environments in New Zealand.
While no one colour was satisfactory as a protective factor for all conditions, the project found that "United Nations" blue was the most visible colour in the greatest variety of conditions, and was clearly not the colour of game.
Stoney Creek still believed its Blaze Orange products were the safest colour in the bush. However, over time the colour can fade and change in different light conditions, decreasing its safety value.
The New Zealand Deerstalkers' Association Incorporated recommends and promotes safe hunting practices, including the wearing of hi-vis clothing that contrasts with the environment and the game being hunted.
this article - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10870721




You're thoughts first please
WL
 
In Ontario if it’s faded it must be replaced so that shouldn’t be a concern here. As for blue that is a colour that deer (and other animals) can see so I wouldn’t recommend it. For me I find blue blends in way more that orange.
 
If it works, why not?

Hunting is, statistically, a much safer pastime than golf, racquetball, or looking at waterfalls in national parks. But it's that way because we're feckin' careful. Wearing anything that allows humans to discern us from critters seems a good idea.
 
Deer have very poor vision of color, been using blaze and street clothes for years , color doesn't effect the deer in the least.All animals are different can't lump them together into one spectrum.Ever seen how moose are fooled if you beat their noses?

Your movement , sound and smell and shape are going to give you away LONG before a color.



Found said:
In Ontario if it’s faded it must be replaced so that shouldn’t be a concern here. As for blue that is a colour that deer (and other animals) can see so I wouldn’t recommend it. For me I find blue blends in way more that orange.
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Found said:
In Ontario if it’s faded it must be replaced so that shouldn’t be a concern here. As for blue that is a colour that deer (and other animals) can see so I wouldn’t recommend it. For me I find blue blends in way more that orange.
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Deer can see all colours..... they just see them all as shades of blue...... just because you wear something other than blue doesn't make you invisible..... lol
 
IMHO, the imposed wearing of mandated colors during big game seasons has run its course. Alberta has no such regulations, and their incidence of shooting accidents attributed to big game hunting is no greater than in the jurisdictions that impose hi-viz apparel. Its time the rest of us caught up; safe shooting habits are a state of mind, not fashion.
 
Boomer said:
IMHO, the imposed wearing of mandated colors during big game seasons has run its course. Alberta has no such regulations, and their incidence of shooting accidents attributed to big game hunting is no greater than in the jurisdictions that impose hi-viz apparel. Its time the rest of us caught up; safe shooting habits are a state of mind, not fashion.
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Think of the hunting density, Alberta has a lot of land a very few hunters when compared to the land area.

Hunting in Ontario is quite the opposite, I can tell you a number of occasions where hunters have walked into out run in the big bush of Eastern Ontario on crown land and if they did not have Orange on you would not have had any clue that they were there. Not that you are shooting without a proper back stop but you do not want to shoot into even the general area of a person and having hunter orange in Ontario helps. 300 yards through tight hardwood bush and I can see the other hunter, we do not have 1000 yards of open foothills.
 
Coyote are able to see in the blue-violet and yellow spectrum. So anything blue will look like a neon sign warning a coyote.
 
Boomer said:
IMHO, the imposed wearing of mandated colors during big game seasons has run its course. Alberta has no such regulations, and their incidence of shooting accidents attributed to big game hunting is no greater than in the jurisdictions that impose hi-viz apparel. Its time the rest of us caught up; safe shooting habits are a state of mind, not fashion.
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Agreed but here in NB, unsafe shooting practices are regular occurrences. So much so that last year when two locked and loaded coyotes hunters posted video on them in their blind with a quart of JD and 24 of beer in addition to their firearms, the facebook group freaked out.....at me for dis-agreeing with the practice.
 
Have no relevant experience in AB, but here in ON its absolutely needs to be worn, especially if dogging or stalking. Not that I am a fan of being told what to do.
T
 
Know your target. More effective than wearing bright colours.

BC doesn't have orange rules and it's a good thing. Several years ago BC hunters were asked if they wanted blaze rules and it was a resounding NO.
 
Wasn't there a number of studies recently showing that Hi-viz orange becomes hard to see and actually becomes more of a tan/deer colour in poor light such as at dusk and dawn....
 
russm86 said:
Wasn't there a number of studies recently showing that Hi-viz orange becomes hard to see and actually becomes more of a tan/deer colour in poor light such as at dusk and dawn....
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Worse than carharts? Yes, I have seen hunters in Carharts with a tiny orange vest over top.

I know how well I can see blaze orange in the bush, we use it for anything big game and small game when we hunt in a group. Archery no, waterfowl no, turkey no, but when there are 20-25 hunters per 100 acre farm bush, ya, I like to have it on.
 
I have always argued against the compulsory use of blaze colors when hunting.
But hey, guess who won't take two steps into the bush in hunting season unless he has a blaze orange vest and cap on?
Me!
 
Contrary to the fear mongering that took place when the change was first announced, there was no increase in the rate of accidental shootings in Alberta, when the color requirement was dropped. And while deer do not see color scheme as we do, they see contrast, similar to looking at black and white pictures. So if you wear a light color, and are against a dark background, you will be more easily seen by deer . And here in Alberta, we also have bighorn and pronghorn and mountain goats, that have much sharper vision than deer, so they notice contrast more readily than deer do. I actually prefer not be seen at all, rather than have some idiot pointing a loaded rifle at me, to look at me with his riflescope, and I witnessed that happening for myself, when some idiot scoped my hunting partners, who both had orange caps on.
 
Here in BC we don't have any mandatory colour rule and most guys wear some sort of cammo or just their regular bush clothes. I have lived and hunted in MB and ON before where there are colour rules (and had to pin your licence on your back..) and I believe that having no colour rules forces hunters to be far more careful and aware of what they're shooting at.
 
Safe shooting practices trump any type of extra visible clothing, I know that, the guys I hunt with know that...but I have no way of confirming that the Yahoo on the next farm over or behind the spruce tree on Crown land does. Blaze is not Kryptonite but if makes me even negligibly more visible, I will continue to wear it.
 
BC has a different take on hunter colours, and I can't even remember the last hunter fatality involving a firearm here. I think I read there was one in 15 years and I didn't read the cause, he may of shot himself. BC has a lot of rules about counting points etc to make sure you're taking mature bulls / bucks, even in over the counter tag zones. I understand NZ has different priorities as everything is feral and fair game, less of a rush here to shoot. Being shot by a fellow hunter has only crossed my mind as a risk involving clients that aren't Canadian. First pic is hoytcanon in a BC tuxedo.



 
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