One Countries new perspective on Blaze hunter Safety
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You guys will have to understand the jungle like country where people hunt Red Deer in NZ during the Roar..
It not uncommon for them to shoot thru small windows at roaring stags from 10-150-20m away.... combined that with rusty red ,andrenaline and a scoped rifle seeing 5/8ts of F.k all .... it happens an most of the time blaze orange was worn!
Il explain a scenerio later
It not uncommon for them to shoot thru small windows at roaring stags from 10-150-20m away.... combined that with rusty red ,andrenaline and a scoped rifle seeing 5/8ts of F.k all .... it happens an most of the time blaze orange was worn!
Il explain a scenerio later
Ardent
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Ohhh trust me we understand the cold jungle well, they call the west coast of BC New Zealand North. This is hunting last year and by no means the worst of it. Just no shooting unless you're certain what you're looking at is, seems pretty simple. The fine and charges for shooting an immature animal make shooting not positively identified animals generally non-issue here, it's part of a hunting culture in my eyes.
Think of the hunting density, Alberta has a lot of land a very few hunters when compared to the land area.
Not always or everywhere. You ought to be out here opening morning of Sheep season.
No camo requirement, but we lose more hunters to Grizzlies than being shot. 
Grizz
Not always or everywhere. You ought to be out here opening morning of Sheep season.
No camo requirement, but we lose more hunters to Grizzlies than being shot. Grizz
It's all relative..... everybody hunts differentiy and under different circumstances......
If Ontario law allowed me to do so during rifle season, I wouldn't wear blaze on the way to my stand..... it's my 400 acres and well posted.....
But at my camp, which is 62 acres plus rented OFAH land, we do drives, and as a dogger, I feel much more comfortable in blaze....
If Ontario law allowed me to do so during rifle season, I wouldn't wear blaze on the way to my stand..... it's my 400 acres and well posted.....
But at my camp, which is 62 acres plus rented OFAH land, we do drives, and as a dogger, I feel much more comfortable in blaze....
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I've seen blaze orange in hundreds of different situations and at dusk and dawn the orange is almost glowing, providing it's not too old. If you can't see the orange then it's flashlight time.
RUSSM- click on those links an you will find some Google bait to read up on an maybe find some of those studies or research that even NZ had done.
you're on the money though.
think Roaring Red Stags and rookie/young/old/experienced hunters in on public land jungle like country, sika or Fallow also get a bright colouring especially in sun, or the dull light it can be tricky when the hunters blaze vest is soaking wet an covered in mud? from a fall or scrub bashing!
Good discussion! its making you think
WL
you're on the money though.
think Roaring Red Stags and rookie/young/old/experienced hunters in on public land jungle like country, sika or Fallow also get a bright colouring especially in sun, or the dull light it can be tricky when the hunters blaze vest is soaking wet an covered in mud? from a fall or scrub bashing!
Good discussion! its making you think
WL
yep- but with all due respect , Aussies and Kiwis arnt known to keep their property in 'as new' condition and we don't really have the big build up to a limited 'hunting season' like Over there in Canada , where I can imagine rifles get dusted, loads made, sighted an all gear replaced or upgraded from past year.. ive had the same blaze vest for 5 years and worn it a handful of times, becaue it isn't in our rules an regs we kind of forget about it until we rock up on a hunt an its a busy valley or known area /members hunt etc that we think- #### a lot of ppl il wear this today..
ive seen a lot of gurus (experienced veteran hunters) wearing the same camo from ? years ago an its almost the bloody shade of brown most deer are LOL, you know the blokes with the worn out hat that they wear each hunt!
I picked up some people posting that there is actually Fines for having Faded or Dulled BLAZE orange items in the field! this is wild but gives Wardens and such something else to do an keep them in job while gaining some revenue but all in the name of Hunter Safety, eliminating the 'Human Error' / User own Risk factor.
I do Agree, a New Blaze orange garment is pretty easy to spot out in the relative opens in fading light
You guys also proberly have LEH, Limited Entry.... bit more peace of mind than hitting the Alpine National Park during peak season, or a NZ mountain range in the Roar .
hehe! I thought this would be a more common statement!
However, how far through Tree an Scrub can you see?
check out this Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfdJFIsNuJE
considering that i hunt open fields, i can see pretty frickin far lol. and so can the deer
yep I'm with ya, in open country, fringe or Tops country, I wouldn't wear Blue either.
Many years ago when the Blaze Orange 12 mile cloth first came out, we were deer hunting in the Meaford tank range. Very early in the morning when you really could not see much you could look out across those vast open fields and see and see orange hats and coats. No heads or legs, just hats and coats. Proper Blaze Orange clothing simply makes one highly visible. Poor orange colour I believe is no better than wearing browns and greens and adds no safety factor.
Now that being said, something that no one considers is that the vast majority of hunters are male. Of which 10% are colour blind, myself included. Depending on the severity of the ones colour blindness and the colour spectrums affected we see colours in a different perspective. Most common is the red, green spectrums. Wearing red and poor orange clothing in the bush from my eyes just makes one totally blend in with the surrounding bush. For example when I shot a lot of skeet one reason I went to an OU was that if my red AA hulls fell on the green grass they became totally invisible. Colour blind men during the war were found to have higher abilities to hit moving objects and pick out camouflaged objects from the air. I know I can generally see partridge in the bush where other folks can not and my friend who is colour blind more in the blue spectrums can see them away better than I.
Now getting to the gentleman from Australia's original topic of fluorescent blue. There is nothing in the bush except for water and the odd blue bird that is blue. I noticed years ago that personally I can see blue flagging tape away easier than orange. Blue flagging tape to my eyes just jumps out at me. The bush in the fall is full of foliage that has turned red and orange. No Blues. So to my way of thinking it one really wants to promote the wearing of a colour for safety, bright blue would be a logical choice. Various animals as most of us know perceive colour much differently that humans. But in my experience movement and shapes are more important to them than colour.
Overall I am with H4831 I don't go into the bush in the fall without good blaze orange, even though I hunt on my own property. Here in Ontario, especially in popular areas it is simply not worth your life to hunt without it, as the hunter numbers in many areas is high and the yahoos that will shoot at anything that moves, crawls or swims are equally as high. Blaze orange I believe has saved many a life and injury and there is no way of quantifying or measuring that.
Now that being said, something that no one considers is that the vast majority of hunters are male. Of which 10% are colour blind, myself included. Depending on the severity of the ones colour blindness and the colour spectrums affected we see colours in a different perspective. Most common is the red, green spectrums. Wearing red and poor orange clothing in the bush from my eyes just makes one totally blend in with the surrounding bush. For example when I shot a lot of skeet one reason I went to an OU was that if my red AA hulls fell on the green grass they became totally invisible. Colour blind men during the war were found to have higher abilities to hit moving objects and pick out camouflaged objects from the air. I know I can generally see partridge in the bush where other folks can not and my friend who is colour blind more in the blue spectrums can see them away better than I.
Now getting to the gentleman from Australia's original topic of fluorescent blue. There is nothing in the bush except for water and the odd blue bird that is blue. I noticed years ago that personally I can see blue flagging tape away easier than orange. Blue flagging tape to my eyes just jumps out at me. The bush in the fall is full of foliage that has turned red and orange. No Blues. So to my way of thinking it one really wants to promote the wearing of a colour for safety, bright blue would be a logical choice. Various animals as most of us know perceive colour much differently that humans. But in my experience movement and shapes are more important to them than colour.
Overall I am with H4831 I don't go into the bush in the fall without good blaze orange, even though I hunt on my own property. Here in Ontario, especially in popular areas it is simply not worth your life to hunt without it, as the hunter numbers in many areas is high and the yahoos that will shoot at anything that moves, crawls or swims are equally as high. Blaze orange I believe has saved many a life and injury and there is no way of quantifying or measuring that.
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Ardent
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LEH is species specific, all the normal stuff is typically open season during an LEH (Caribou, Moose, Elk, Black bear, Cougar yada yada). An LEH only applies to say Grizzly bears, or a thinhorn sheep, same amount of hunters in general can be expected afield. BC has open season on big game the vast majority of the year not a limited season, so pretty similar to NZ. Bear closes June 30th for instance and mountain goats open Aug 1st regionally for example.
