helps me make my choice 30-06 rifle
- Thread starter bud69
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Redfield is a better scope then the Trophy.
I wouldn't want a 20" barreled 30'06 however, so the M70.
For $210 you can get a Japanese Elite though, which is a good scope.
https://www.alflahertys.com/collect...00-scope-3-9x40mm-with-multi-x-reticle-353940
I wouldn't want a 20" barreled 30'06 however, so the M70.
For $210 you can get a Japanese Elite though, which is a good scope.
https://www.alflahertys.com/collect...00-scope-3-9x40mm-with-multi-x-reticle-353940
- Location
- Saskatchewan
If you always shoot with hearing protection the 20" Husky is superior quality. But muzzle blast will definitely damage your hearing more than a longer barrel if you don't wear hearing protection. It's completely up to your personal judgement which is the nicer handling rifle - the Husky will be "handier" and quicker, the Winchester will be easier to hold steady in hunting conditions which aids better precision marksmanship. It also depends on you hunting conditions. For open areas and mechanized transport, I'd choose the Winchester. For heavy bush and foot transport, the Husky would excel.
- Location
- Haliburton County, Central Ontario
Husky for sure. I have had Redfields and they are quite good value for the money.
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Some are much louder than others. The .30/06 in a shorter barrel( below 22") has quite a roar.
Yes, grab a 1640 (60cm barrel) with steel trigger guard if they have any good ones left.
I know they have some nice examples with aluminum guards, but the steel ones are a bit nicer, more durable, and more "mauser" like.
The weight saving is nothing noticeable with a 1600 and the 52cm barrel, and the muzzle blast gets old fast.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The advantage the .30/06 has over a .308 is its ability to attain higher velocities with bullets heavier than 180 grs. Thus a .300 magnum has an advantage over the '06, and the .300 Ultra has an advantage over the .300, but the focus here is on the .30/06. While I suspect most '06 shooters seldom bother shooting anything longer or heavier than a 180 gr lead core game bullet, should you be someone who prefers heavy for caliber bullets, the Husqvarna might not be the best choice. The Husky has a 1:12 twist rather than the more common 1:10, and the difference between it and my 1:10 Brno is demonstrable, therefore I would probably choose the push feed M-70.
I tried some 240 gr Woodleighs in my wife's 1600, and the bullet holes showed significant yaw, where they performed normally when fired from my 1:10 Brno. The 240 gr Woodleighs measure 1.439" long, compared to 1.387" for the 180 gr TSXs the Husky is normally fed. The Woodleigh's marginal stability results in reduced penetration and is likely to cause the bullet to curve through the target, rather than penetrate in a straight line. This is due to the longer period of time it takes for a long bullet to recover from impact induced precession (yaw) relative to the the time it takes the same bullet to fully recover from precession when its rotational velocity is higher. If you've ever seen recovered bullets with squashed bases and/or expanded nose sections that are angled rather than flat, this is the result of impact induced precession.
Typically bullets shorter than 1.30" in length provide nominal stability from a 1:12 twist; a little longer can be used in warm temperatures, high humidity, at high altitudes, and a bit shorter if used at low temperatures, low humidity, at or below sea level. Considering this, it looks like I should reassess the 180 TSX for my wife's rifle, and I do have 180 gr Partitions on my loading bench.
A few examples of .30 caliber bullet lengths are as follows:
Woodleigh 240 gr PP - 1.439"
Barnes 180 gr TSX - 1.389"
Nosler 150 gr BT - 1.221"
180 gr BT - 1.367"
180 gr Partition - 1.188"
200 gr Partition - 1.356"
150 gr AB - 1.221"
165 gr AB - 1.321"
180 gr AB - 1.392"
200 gr AB - 1.490"
210 gr LRAB - 1.571"
Hornady 190 gr BTSP - 1.392"
165 gr GMX - 1.435"
165 gr SST - 1.274"
I tried some 240 gr Woodleighs in my wife's 1600, and the bullet holes showed significant yaw, where they performed normally when fired from my 1:10 Brno. The 240 gr Woodleighs measure 1.439" long, compared to 1.387" for the 180 gr TSXs the Husky is normally fed. The Woodleigh's marginal stability results in reduced penetration and is likely to cause the bullet to curve through the target, rather than penetrate in a straight line. This is due to the longer period of time it takes for a long bullet to recover from impact induced precession (yaw) relative to the the time it takes the same bullet to fully recover from precession when its rotational velocity is higher. If you've ever seen recovered bullets with squashed bases and/or expanded nose sections that are angled rather than flat, this is the result of impact induced precession.
Typically bullets shorter than 1.30" in length provide nominal stability from a 1:12 twist; a little longer can be used in warm temperatures, high humidity, at high altitudes, and a bit shorter if used at low temperatures, low humidity, at or below sea level. Considering this, it looks like I should reassess the 180 TSX for my wife's rifle, and I do have 180 gr Partitions on my loading bench.
A few examples of .30 caliber bullet lengths are as follows:
Woodleigh 240 gr PP - 1.439"
Barnes 180 gr TSX - 1.389"
Nosler 150 gr BT - 1.221"
180 gr BT - 1.367"
180 gr Partition - 1.188"
200 gr Partition - 1.356"
150 gr AB - 1.221"
165 gr AB - 1.321"
180 gr AB - 1.392"
200 gr AB - 1.490"
210 gr LRAB - 1.571"
Hornady 190 gr BTSP - 1.392"
165 gr GMX - 1.435"
165 gr SST - 1.274"
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- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Strange, I haven't been able to tell the difference in blast between a short vs long barrel .30/06 since 1973.
Regardless of barrel length, its important to protect your hearing!
