Any new shipments of 1891/30 Mosin Nagants?

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Hello, I am wondering if you know of any dealers or sponsors that have just got or are getting new crates of Mosin Nagants. I have been out of the red rifle game for a few years since buying my SKS and I am wondering if Canada is still getting Mosins?

I am looking for a 1932 to 1938 Hex Mosin Nagant 1891/30 in the best possible condition. This rifle is going to be a shooter and I don't really collect at all but I want one example of the best Mosin I can find.

When they stroke out a number and electropencil a new number is that called "force matching"? I don't really understand the difference between "unissued" and "refurb". Did they ever build Mosin Nagants around this time frame with chrome lined bores for corrosive ammo?

Just wondering if there are going to be any new shipments coming soon to choose from? How would you recommend I find the rifle I am looking for? I'd like all the numbers to match from the factory, have a nice unmarked hardwood stock and pretty much as little blueing or metal flaws as I can. Thanks
 
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Hello, I am wondering if you know of any dealers or sponsors that have just got or are getting new crates of Mosin Nagants. I have been out of the red rifle game for a few years since buying my SKS and I am wondering if Canada is still getting Mosins?

I am looking for a 1932 to 1938 Hex Mosin Nagant 1891/30 in the best possible condition. This rifle is going to be a shooter and I don't really collect at all but I want one example of the best Mosin I can find.

When they stroke out a number and electropencil a new number is that called "force matching"? I don't really understand the difference between "unissued" and "refurb". Did they ever build Mosin Nagants around this time frame with chrome lined bores for corrosive ammo?

Just wondering if there are going to be any new shipments coming soon to choose from? How would you recommend I find the rifle I am looking for? I'd like all the numbers to match from the factory, have a nice unmarked hardwood stock and pretty much as little blueing or metal flaws as I can. Thanks
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There are no incoming shipments of 91/30 that I'm aware of. Still a few in Canada.

No Mosin received a chrome lined bore.

Electropenciling is uncommon but a few rebuilds did receive them. I've mostly seen it on M44 rebuilds.

A force matched serial number is one that was ground down and stamped over (most common), stuck out and stamped beside or penciled. These account for 99.5% of all Mosins in Canada. A rifle that is factory matching is a very rare thing anywhere in the world. Since Russia was the victor in WW2 they were able to reclaim the majority of their captured arms. There are probably less than 20 factory matching 91/30s with a hex receiver in the entire world.
 
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Thanks for the information guys, so I have seen pictures of the original number on the magazine plate with a line stroked through it and another number stamped beside it.

So what would you call it when there is no electro pencil stroking out a number and a number stamped beside it? I have seen numerous pics of guns that have the same numbers on bolt, receiver mag plate etc etc but I guess they were ground down and stamped over?

I just like it when there is no electropencil stroked out number visible and all the numbers seem to match, what's this called?
 
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I just like it when there is no electropencil stroked out number visible and all the numbers seem to match, what's this called?
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"All matching"

Some people say "no force matched parts" but in reality, they are certainly force matched in a less crude way
 
In most cases when you see "all matching" it tells you nothing about if it's a factory (original) matching or force matched. Now, if you go into search of factory matching - you'll have to spend a lot of nights reading topics on gunboards and looking at pictures and searching for couple of hard to find books. Those are topics for advanced collectors.
 
Boy is'nt that nice. picked up a 91/30 Nagant last year. if I'm not mistaken it's all matching execpt the bayonet. and it's a Hex reciever. it is a refurb due to the stamp on the stock . I just looked at it . the number stamp on the reciever has the same numbers as the butt plate and the mag bottom and the bolt . but the number 1 on the reciever looks diffrent than all the other number 1s stamped elsewhere.

not to sound stupid but did they use the same stamps for everything ?? please don't ask me to post a photo . my computer is so old It will take me forever.
 
ch..likely just a miss hit on the bbl shank,war time production can be rough and odd stamped numbers happen...that "1" ,.is it with the serial number on the bbl shank,?
 
SA85M1 the serial number on the reciever - barrel shank it's number has a base on the bottom of the number 1. but the other number 1s on the bolt top and the butt plate and on the bottom of the mag are missing the straight line - to finish the number one on the bottom. and the number 2 stamp on the reciever looks diffrent also if I'm not mistaken. it's like another set of punches were used.

inside the reciever there is'nt any wear that I can see. and to me the barrel looks mint. or close to it. very sharp. it's from the early 1930s.
 
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Will make a Mosin collectors sticky similar to the SVT one and explain the difference between force matched and factory matched rifles. Some force matched serial numbers do include the Cyrillic prefix (one of my M38 and PU snipers for example) and in some cases (Tula wartime production) mixed fonts were used. It takes a keen eye.
 
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I figgured it was as you said force matched . new parts with the same number as the reciever stamped in it . I got it for a good price so it's fine with me . and it was made when my Father was a teenager.
 
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