2nd Rifle option- Scenerio

WhelanLad

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Hey fellas,
The annual Wonnangatta valley hunt is only a few weeks away,
so I'm beginning to gear up for it .. A week (5-7) days in the Bush , hunting Sambar deer.. Awesome!!!

I'm having a hard time deciding on which rifle to take as a 2nd rifle to the Montana 7mm08.. it isn't a backup rifle essentially, ill use the 7mm08 on the Serious back pack hunting later in the week but early on the week I will be social hunting down in the lower elevation Valley, and while ther is still a chance of running into a Mr Big, it is mostly Hinds an immature stags and the idea is to hunt with several friends covering a few gulleys an be done by lunch time, an most likely go for sit an wait hunts in the arvos.

To give you some ideas, this is what the "Bush" is like down there..

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The choices are a Factory open sighted Ruger #1 in 303 Brit OR the Winnie 94 375BB with a Williams peep sight.. I am leaning toward one more than the other but opinions never hurt!

weathers likely to be miserable at times but this year more good than bad.

cheers
WL
 
For close shots in thick bush, I'd chose your Winnie 94 375BB with the Williams peep sight.

I recently set up a lever for just such thick bush hunting. A marlin 336 in 35 Rem with a Leupold 1.5-5x20...

Cheers
Jay

To give you some ideas, this is what the "Bush" is like down there..


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ill use the 7mm08 on the Serious back pack hunting later in the week but early on the week

You guys hunt back backs down there? By the pic it looks like a successful of a stalk on two back-packs during the rut. Hope he shot the big one stag BP.

One good thing about shooting a back pack is that they would be very easy to carry out of the bush. Stuffing and mounting trophies would be quite easy as well.

You mates down under are very cool indeed. :)

 
You guys hunt back backs down there? By the pic it looks like a successful of a stalk on two back-packs during the rut. Hope he shot the big one stag BP.

One good thing about shooting a back pack is that they would be very easy to carry out of the bush. Stuffing and mounting trophies would be quite easy as well.

You mates down under are very cool indeed. :)

Hmmm? "Back backs" - I think it's called "keyboard stuttering".

Here is an explanation of some of the nomenclature around pack hunting: huge trophy pack is called "an old bag". A pup is called a "baggie" (a purely Aussie term). An internal frame pack is called a "stiffie". Arctic backpacks are called "ice packs". A belt pack is a nuisance hybrid which is despised by most true pack hunters. It is referred to as a Got Any Yet bag. An old female back pack, generally just culled, are "old saggy baggies".
 
WL, given your experience, why the hell would you want our advice??:d

Still, I enjoy reading about your adventures and seeing your photos, and hope you don't slow down.

For what its worth, I would say that the right rifle is one that's easy to carry in that terrain, is quick handling, and allows you to put sufficient power on the target in order to produce a humane one shot kill. My idea is a carbine length rifle, equipped with iron sights, topped with a low power scope in QD rings, chambered for a moderate sized cartridge, with a minimum bore size of 6.5.
 
WL, given your experience, why the hell would you want our advice??:d

Still, I enjoy reading about your adventures and seeing your photos, and hope you don't slow down.

For what its worth, I would say that the right rifle is one that's easy to carry in that terrain, is quick handling, and allows you to put sufficient power on the target in order to produce a humane one shot kill. My idea is a carbine length rifle, equipped with iron sights, topped with a low power scope in QD rings, chambered for a moderate sized cartridge, with a minimum bore size of 6.5.

Good choice. Personally, I'm more partial to a bigger entrance hole, so I'd go with a lever gun. For deer sized game, anything around or over 44 mag/45 LC size would be nice. A really nice rifle was the little Ruger 44 semi, but I think they're a no-go in Australia? 45-70 is nice, but might even be a little too much gun, unless milder loads are used. But, it's whatever turns your crank. It's like women - ya want a tall leggy blonde, or a woman that can split a cord of wood.
 
You bring the chooks along to keep yahs warm at night?
The 7mm-08 has served you well...
Save the weight of two guns and bring more Castelman###X.
Thats my advice.
Best Regards and pics of curse of the Winner and the game.
Rob
 
Even though the venerable old 303 was used to almost wipe out the elephant and rhino, I don't think it's powerful enough for today's deer. You need at least 700 grains traveling at 4,500 fps.

So you're advocating for 375 Ruger then? Gatehouse would concur! :rockOn:

:ar15:

Cheers
Jay
 
I would be partial to the lever as well for closer ranges, and in the thick of it.

Now, if someone could develop a short-action 50 BMG in a 6 lb. lever gun, with 16" barrel - even if you had to add a muzzle break - it would be wicked! Something that you could dog with, yet drop a T.Rex at 1500 yds.
 
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