Norwegian K98k conversion *scoped*

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Just looking for some more info on this D&T job on my 243 K98 done image.jpgin the past. Looks like it's been scope'd at one time by a civilian or even the Norwegian military? Myself and the former owner both agree that it looks like a weaver base or similar. Did the Norwegians ever scoped?

Been looking at either keeping it with irons or scout (ZF-41) even but since it has been drilled and tapped at one time, scoping it if needed wouldn't be as bad.

Any info on this from K98 gurus is welcomed..

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Looks like spacing for standard Weaver bases. Collector value, unfortunately, is pretty much ruined so I would say throw a scope on it if you want and blast away.
 
I hope you didn't pay full pop.

Too bad the guy welded in the the holes instead of cleanly peening mounting screws. I wonder if the case hardening has been effected.
 
That rifle would look really fine with a set of turret or claw mounts holding a period scope.

The scopes and mounts are available. Contact Corwin Arms a banner advertiser. If they don't have them they can either get them or tell you where to get them.

That stock and bands are worth a couple of hundred dollars and the bolt, triggerguard are worth another hundred fifty dollars just for parts.
 
Would be more concerned with the fact that someone welded in the area of the locking lug. or thats what it looks like.

You maybe correct. Pretty sure it's been welded as I took a closer pic. You can still see the threads from the inside.

I may just keep as is or get it D&T for claw mount with original or replica mount and 4x optic of the era.

Not sure what the Norwegians used for surplus K98k sniper variants but found a few leads online.

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Just out of curiosity.. Could the welds be drilled out? Thx.
 

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You maybe correct. Pretty sure it's been welded as I took a closer pic. You can still see the threads from the inside.

I may just keep as is or get it D&T for claw mount with original or replica mount and 4x optic of the era.

Not sure what the Norwegians used for surplus K98k sniper variants but found a few leads online.

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Just out of curiosity.. Could the welds be drilled out? Thx.

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You maybe correct. Pretty sure it's been welded as I took a closer pic. You can still see the threads from the inside.

I may just keep as is or get it D&T for claw mount with original or replica mount and 4x optic of the era.

Not sure what the Norwegians used for surplus K98k sniper variants but found a few leads online.

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Just out of curiosity.. Could the welds be drilled out? Thx.


OP, you can see on the pics how small the heated area is and that is the thinnest part of the receiver. Those welds, depending on what hardness of wire or rod was used should be able to be drilled out and re tapped. Make sure you have the proper equipment to do that job and that everything is properly centered.

I would start with a properly ground center drill. A regular drill bit will move off center when pressure is applied. Get a competent gunsmith to drill out and retap those holes. It will be money well spent and IMHO that rifle is worth the effort and cost. A sniper clone, if done properly, can be quite valuable.

Rumor has it that there is only one "German" sniper rifle in the world that has been "VERIFIED" as REAL. Axis snipers were reputed to destroy or dispose of their rifles before being caught with one as it was a sure death sentence. Snipers may be very effective warriors but they are also universally hated by the troops. Feared would be a better term. With good officers using them properly they became valuable force multipliers in the field as well as excellent sources of information from recon.

As far as only ONE genuine K98 sniper rifle existing, I sincerely doubt that. But that is the rumor. I have seen a couple in the US in private hands as well as in a regimental museum that definitely look real but there is no provenance for proof.

I also have a couple of clones of my own. The thing is, I know they're clones.

You may want to look into Norwegian K98 sniper clones. If there was anywhere in the war that such rifles would be captured intact, IMHO Norway would be the place. I have heard and read stories about what was left behind when the Nazis were displaced. Warehouses and Armories full of everything an army would use and need.

You need to do a lot of research. Look up a CGNer that goes by the handle HORILKA. He knows his stuff and has seen a lot of it first hand. Well respected for his knowledge here and on other sites on both sides of the border.
 
Maybe I misread that but whoever said there is just one real German sniper rifle in the world doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. There are a lot of known sniper rifles that are definitely legit. They are not rare by any means. Expensive but not rare.
 
Maybe I misread that but whoever said there is just one real German sniper rifle in the world doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. There are a lot of known sniper rifles that are definitely legit. They are not rare by any means. Expensive but not rare.

x2 on that. Check out the K98 forum. They have a sub forum for sniper rifles and a few guys who REALLY know the subject, some on this side of the pond, some in Europe.
 
Its the weld over the front locking lug you should be concerned about, It might be fine forever as the other fellow said . then again do you know who , when , or how they welded it. if the heat treatment on the lug area was affected . For the price of a receiver and a gunsmith to install it correctly. It might be better on your nerves . wondering every time you squeeze the trigger, is today the day it self destructs . 30-06 does not normally come apart nicely.
As for it being a sniper rifle ,its highly unlikely. If Norway did use weaver style mounts on sniper rifles , we could all have a good laugh .
 
Too bad.
As far as military sniper Mausers, didn't they usually go with a side mount base?

The Germans never had a "standard" sniper rifle system. Low turret mounts, high turret mounts, short side rail, long side rail, claw mounts of various designs primarily used by the SS, ZF41 (not really a sniper rifle, more of a DMR in practice), and the ZF4.
 
Its the weld over the front locking lug you should be concerned about, It might be fine forever as the other fellow said . then again do you know who , when , or how they welded it. if the heat treatment on the lug area was affected . For the price of a receiver and a gunsmith to install it correctly. It might be better on your nerves . wondering every time you squeeze the trigger, is today the day it self destructs . 30-06 does not normally come apart nicely.
As for it being a sniper rifle ,its highly unlikely. If Norway did use weaver style mounts on sniper rifles , we could all have a good laugh .

unfortunately, I know nothing about this rifles past, besides being an all# matching Norwegian Army conversion with a like new condition bore. It hasn't been fired much.
 
Rumor has it that there is only one "German" sniper rifle in the world that has been "VERIFIED" as REAL. Axis snipers were reputed to destroy or dispose of their rifles before being caught with one as it was a sure death sentence. Snipers may be very effective warriors but they are also universally hated by the troops. Feared would be a better term. With good officers using them properly they became valuable force multipliers in the field as well as excellent sources of information from recon.

As far as only ONE genuine K98 sniper rifle existing, I sincerely doubt that. But that is the rumor. I have seen a couple in the US in private hands as well as in a regimental museum that definitely look real but there is no provenance for proof.

Let me assure you that this is in fact a myth. There are many dedicated collectors in the United States as well as Europe which own a good number of original 98K sniper rifles. While a great many of purported originals are in fact fake, if you know what you're looking at, they're no different than any other aspect of collecting. They can be authenticated and verified as originals through close attention to detail. Here's an example of an original optics matching byf 44 HT which lives in my safe. I'm not sure how many other originals reside here in Canada, but I know that they're certainly around in the United States.

Chris

 
Let me assure you that this is in fact a myth. There are many dedicated collectors in the United States as well as Europe which own a good number of original 98K sniper rifles. While a great many of purported originals are in fact fake, if you know what you're looking at, they're no different than any other aspect of collecting. They can be authenticated and verified as originals through close attention to detail. Here's an example of an original optics matching byf 44 HT.


That sir, is one beautiful piece of history!
 
Its the weld over the front locking lug you should be concerned about, It might be fine forever as the other fellow said . then again do you know who , when , or how they welded it. if the heat treatment on the lug area was affected . For the price of a receiver and a gunsmith to install it correctly. It might be better on your nerves . wondering every time you squeeze the trigger, is today the day it self destructs . 30-06 does not normally come apart nicely.
As for it being a sniper rifle ,its highly unlikely. If Norway did use weaver style mounts on sniper rifles , we could all have a good laugh .

There is a lot of fail on that receiver. First drilling and tapping into the locking lug is wrong, wrong, wrong. That is not where you d&t a M98. I know it's been done a million times but it still doesn't make it the proper location. Personally I won't buy a M98 d&t'd in that location. The welding is another big fail. There is no doubt the heat treat in that area has been affected but to what extent is the big question. I've seen worse things done to a M98 without failure but it would never sit right with me either. I'd be asking the same questions you would be every time I pulled the trigger.
 
Let me assure you that this is in fact a myth. There are many dedicated collectors in the United States as well as Europe which own a good number of original 98K sniper rifles. While a great many of purported originals are in fact fake, if you know what you're looking at, they're no different than any other aspect of collecting. They can be authenticated and verified as originals through close attention to detail. Here's an example of an original optics matching byf 44 HT which lives in my safe. I'm not sure how many other originals reside here in Canada, but I know that they're certainly around in the United States.

Chris



Thanks for that Chris.
 
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