I got 25 300wm reloaded bullets from a hunting buddy. He told me to pull them because didn't trust the reloader who reloaded them. I pulled them and found that they were 130gr bullets , the powder charge was 3.2grs differents in the first 10 brass I checked. Wow I though, I dumped the rest of the powder in a bucket and threw it out the door. Brass was in spec. 130gr bullets good to reload again. So I did all right with that. Didn't want his spoon anyway. ha ha .Any one else get any reloaded rounds and found them out of spec. ? I do have friends come over to use my equipment to learn how reload I watch them like a hawk every round they make.
never trust another reloader
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One can also brew your own beer, wine and spirits. Depending how creative people are just as dangerous as reloaded ammo lol
I'd shoot other people's reloaded ammunition who had a reputation for proper reloading. However I would never buy home made ammo in the current economic climate.
I'd shoot other people's reloaded ammunition who had a reputation for proper reloading. However I would never buy home made ammo in the current economic climate.
Buy them up as reloading components and pull the bullets, dump and recharge.
Sometimes folks make a bigger deal owtta things than need be.
Brass is brass and bullits is such.
Burn the bullets off at the range sighting in a new scope mount, then
get serious wid yer own chit.
Sometimes folks make a bigger deal owtta things than need be.
Brass is brass and bullits is such.
Burn the bullets off at the range sighting in a new scope mount, then
get serious wid yer own chit.
It's illegal to sell reloads, unless you are licensed to do so. I have sold rifles and afterward given the buyer the handloads that I had loaded for the rifle, but I make it clear that the ammunition is not part of the deal, and that I will not accept money for reloaded ammunition. If I end up with reloaded ammunition that I didn't load, I pull the bullets and sell or give away the components.
It is also illegal to give away reloads...best be careful what you post on the forum here. Illegal activities violate the forum rules.
https://cssa-cila.org/legals/legal-info-for-reloaders/
When you are reloading you should be in an area dedicated to reloading, no fumes, matches, smoking, no lights that can cause an explosion. Only 2 kg can be out of the locked box and in the room with you. At the end of the session all the explosives must be returned to the locked box. And you cannot resell or give away these cartridges. If you intend to, you need a license and more restrictions must be met. If you do not follow this you will be liable to be charged with unsafe storage under the Criminal Code.
BattleRife
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A friend and I once bought all the shooting related items from an elderly gentleman who was giving up hunting. Eight guns and several thousand rounds of ammo.
Among this was several hundred rounds of Czech surplus 7.62 x 39mm that had been "upgraded" to hunting ammo by pulling the bullets and replacing them with soft points. In some of the cases he simply switched to the heavier soft point bullet and kept the powder charge the same. In others he had replaced the original powder with a compressed charge of 3031. A significant percentage of the cartridges you could pull the bullets with your fingers.
He used this ammo in two SKS rifles for deer hunting. Both of the gas piston rods would barely move in the cylinders because the parts had been battered to the point of expanding the back end of the piston rods so they were tight in the cylinders. I borrowed a collet style puller and pulled the bullets on something like 400 rounds.
Among this was several hundred rounds of Czech surplus 7.62 x 39mm that had been "upgraded" to hunting ammo by pulling the bullets and replacing them with soft points. In some of the cases he simply switched to the heavier soft point bullet and kept the powder charge the same. In others he had replaced the original powder with a compressed charge of 3031. A significant percentage of the cartridges you could pull the bullets with your fingers.
He used this ammo in two SKS rifles for deer hunting. Both of the gas piston rods would barely move in the cylinders because the parts had been battered to the point of expanding the back end of the piston rods so they were tight in the cylinders. I borrowed a collet style puller and pulled the bullets on something like 400 rounds.
Blastattack
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You can sell reloads as a collection of components but not as consumable ammunition. Many auction houses do that to ammo for which they cannot be sure of the origin.
That info from 1990 is out of date. You will find the Explosive Regulations of 2013 have changed some of those requirements. "Locked box" not required (not given unlimited access to is pretty open to interpretation - in a closet would be suitable IMHO), and you can store your powder in same room as reloading as long as only 2kg are within 1m of the reloading equipment at any time.
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-211/
Storage requirements — dwelling
304 (1) When propellant powder, percussion caps or black power cartouches are stored in a dwelling, they must be stored away from flammable substances and sources of ignition. People not authorized by the user must not be given unlimited access to the propellant powder, percussion caps or black powder cartouches.
Manufacture
Requirements
(2) A person who manufactures small arms cartridges or black powder cartouches must ensure that the following requirements are met:
(a) the place where the manufacturing is carried out must have a means of escape that will permit all people in the place to leave it quickly and easily in an emergency;
(b) precautions that minimize the likelihood of an ignition must be taken;
(c) all containers of explosives must be labelled to identify their contents and must be kept closed when not in use;
(d) no more than 2 kg of smokeless powder may be within 1 m of the loading area;
(e) no more than 500 g of black powder may be within 1 m of the loading area;
(f) the small arms cartridges must not include an incendiary or similar military component or device; and
(g) no more than 150 percussion caps may be kept in the loader mechanism of the reloading equipment.
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Would you care to post the actual current legislation that states that a person can't legally give away handloaded ammunition, as I have gone over the current regulations multiple times, without being able to locate any reference to giving away handloaded ammunition.
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Bought some reloads last gun show. Top 5 of shotgun shells were loaded by seller the rest of box were new factory loads. Sometimes buying new reloading items from a store can be crap. Like new Winchester primers. Put powder on ur lawn.
I bought some 243 brass off the EE a while back that included some handloads that the seller made clear should be pulled apart. The neck tension was all over the place, as was the over all length. Two rounds were loaded with a spent primer, and 5 out of the 52 loaded rounds had NO powder in them
Could you guys show me where it is written in Canadian law, that it's illegal to sell reloads? Please show me the Dept of Justice (or other) article on this.
The main problem locally, is the matter of insurance. There are a lot of people reloading (badly) in their basements and selling at gun shows and ranges. I have discussed this with shooters who buy this ammo what they would do if they get a squib + shoot another round, or if the powder is double loaded. They didn't seem to think they could 'go after' the person producing the ammo. I was astounded.
There is an outfit with an indoor range that hired some employees to pull levers on some 650's, and they produced 9mm for a while. A commercial reloader here went to the business (for a whole day!) and showed them how to produce ammo. Over a course of about 6 months, it blew up 3 guns at another range before they stopped using them.. many, many squib loads just because they wanted cheaper ammo at their range.
I've reloaded my own pistol rounds for a little over 4 years now, and know what it takes to be safe when producing it. I'm so completely OCD in the process, brass gets checked a minimum of 3 times. I have friends who want me to sell to them, because I can produce it fairly cheap and relatively fast on a 650xl. Instead, I tell them to come over to my place, and they can use my equipment and i'll share my knowledge. So far, no one has shown up.
The main problem locally, is the matter of insurance. There are a lot of people reloading (badly) in their basements and selling at gun shows and ranges. I have discussed this with shooters who buy this ammo what they would do if they get a squib + shoot another round, or if the powder is double loaded. They didn't seem to think they could 'go after' the person producing the ammo. I was astounded.
There is an outfit with an indoor range that hired some employees to pull levers on some 650's, and they produced 9mm for a while. A commercial reloader here went to the business (for a whole day!) and showed them how to produce ammo. Over a course of about 6 months, it blew up 3 guns at another range before they stopped using them.. many, many squib loads just because they wanted cheaper ammo at their range.
I've reloaded my own pistol rounds for a little over 4 years now, and know what it takes to be safe when producing it. I'm so completely OCD in the process, brass gets checked a minimum of 3 times. I have friends who want me to sell to them, because I can produce it fairly cheap and relatively fast on a 650xl. Instead, I tell them to come over to my place, and they can use my equipment and i'll share my knowledge. So far, no one has shown up.
Nah...dont really care to dig through a bunch of legal documents. CSSA and their legal team probably know what they are talking about.
Bustercluck
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I feel the same way. I've been asked a few times to reoload for some guys so they could save money. They don't seem to understand how much time and effort goes into reloading and can't appreciate the benefits of load development or the benefits of selecting a quality hunting bullet. I've offered them to pick up some dies and bullets(I'll supply primers and powder) and come by,but like you said nobody's showed up yet.
On a side note, I bought a bunch of reloaded 45 acp once and they wouldn't feed in my gun. They seem to fit in the chamber fine, but the slide won't close every 6 or 7th shot. Now they're sitting in the corner until I figure out what to do with them. I'm not really into pulling 1300 rounds.
I had a similar problem once. Solved it eventually when I bought a 1911 with a big chamber that would digest them. It was a Colt.
I shoot my reloads. I don't sell them. I don't buy them. If I was given unknown reloads I would just break them down and wouldn't bother weighing every charge since it makes no difference to me. Consequently I don't have any stories and I have enough to do looking after my own stuff that I don't feel compelled to check what everyone else is doing. I don't actually care what other people do with their reloads. Buy reloads, sell reloads, or give them away as party favours. It's all fine with me. 
handofzeus
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I was just given 20 reloaded hardcast in 45-70. I don't know the reloader. Going to weigh them all and check variance. If they're all within a grain or two I'll try firing the lightest of the bunch. If they were pistol rounds I'd pull'em. Big rifle rounds using a slower powder gives some forgiveness.....one or two extra grains of a fast handgun powder like TITEGROUP over max?......could be bad.
