RDP is good, if you catch him on a good day, he can be difficult at times.
Didn't Lyle retire some years ago? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Never heard of PGW, they new?
Anyways, if RDP is being moody and you don't mind a bit of a drive, give Kel a ring. He's just outside of Carman, does some really nice work. Kel-Lea Outdoors is his buisness name, great guy.