So many new striker fired pistols, which to choose?

Canuck44 said:
Of course. The pistol wins the US Army contract and we all discover how great the pistol is. Same thing happened to the Glock. Glock throws their pistol out of a helicopter and we all go and buy one. CZ Shadow wins IPSC Production regularly and the Shadow is the only gun for Joe Scmuck to ever want to buy cuz it will make them a) a better shooter, and b) a recognized member of the group. Show up with something else and you get reminded how much better you would shoot with a Shadow. Hoyman the local boy in da hood runs a Glock and.....
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A lot of truth in there, Bob.
 
rkm456 said:
How's it stack up to the first version?
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Only shot the 1.0 version a couple times, then moved on to CZ85C, great trigger and accurate pistol, but always loved the feel and look of the M&P. The 2.0 has way better grip and trigger is also excellent for striker fired pistol. Anyways, it is better than the original, and very well priced right now. I really, really, like it. I mean really. Just me tho......
 
smokeater40 said:
Only shot the 1.0 version a couple times, then moved on to CZ85C, great trigger and accurate pistol, but always loved the feel and look of the M&P. The 2.0 has way better grip and trigger is also excellent for striker fired pistol. Anyways, it is better than the original, and very well priced right now. I really, really, like it. I mean really. Just me tho......
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Cool, I'll have to check it out when I get the chance.
 
Bullseye Sports in London, Ontario. They may still have some. It was the best price around at $740.99 with free shipping. Transferred and at my door here in BC in six days. Correction: Bullseye sold out right now.
 
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B.H.B said:
The Sig P320 is my recommendation. I fired mine for the first time last night and the grouping is amazing. A little bit of a high hold at five yards but I haven't been shooting for a while so my skills may play a part. It's well balanced with a light DAO trigger and little muzzle flip. It performed beyond my expectations and it's a great price for a Sig. I'll post a review thread on the M17 when I have more time.
-Brett
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No it's not, it's a single action pre cocked striker system. Call me crazy but a 6.5lbs single action trigger is far from something to brag about.
 
Kidd X said:
No it's not, it's a single action pre cocked striker system. Call me crazy but a 6.5lbs single action trigger is far from something to brag about.
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I'd be interested to know more about the "single action pre cocked striker system" if it actually existed. What's the source of this nonsense? If it's true, which I greatly doubt, I'll apologize and you will have my full respect.
 
B.H.B said:
I'd be interested to know more about the "single action pre cocked striker system" if it actually existed. What's the source of this nonsense? If it's true, which I greatly doubt, I'll apologize and you will have my full respect.
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Better start apologizing. Cause I'm pretty sure you've got it wrong.
 
B.H.B said:
He's partly right. Still DAO though. We'll see how well he explains it.
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Now I'm not some kind of Internet gun scientist but I did stay at a holiday in express once. Here's my 2 pennies.

Since I don't own one and I can't find one of those awesome xray animations for the 320 to prove you right or wrong, I can only go by some quickly googled part diagrams. From what I can see the 320 chassis is a 250 adapted to release a striker, and the sear for the 320 seems to ride on the same pivot pin type system meant for a hammer gun.

Now this pin system being the case it looks as though the trigger in the 320 just drops the sear out of the way of the striker there by releasing it to spring forward. It doesn't have any mechanism for rearward travel and doesn't seem to load the striker spring in any way like the glock system does.

Since it doesn't "####" the striker it can't be double action which honestly doesn't really apply to striker guns anyway. For my pennies it is closer to single action with the striker being fully cocked by slide movement.

Also since I don't wanna derail I feel like this type of trigger would have potentially better feel than the glock style.
 
I see what you're saying. It is still labelled a DAO, however. If somebody from Guns & Ammo, Popular Mechanics, or the like said different I would gladly accept it. Plus it's what the manufacturers call it. It's kind of unimportant, anyway, regarding subtle differences that nobody cares about anyway, isn't it? I'm just happy with the way it shoots. If what's his name doesn't like the trigger that's his problem.
 
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B.H.B said:
I'd be interested to know more about the "single action pre cocked striker system" if it actually existed. What's the source of this nonsense? If it's true, which I greatly doubt, I'll apologize and you will have my full respect.
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The Springfield XD's were regulated to ESP Division because the striker on those guns were fully cocked by the slide, unlike the Glock and M&P where the striker moves very slightly rearward before releasing. Since then IDPA relented and the XD line now is allowed into SSP where it always belonged as well as ESP. Truth be known the striker fired guns by any common definition are single action guns. The do not exhibit two types of trigger pulls and certainly do not allow for double strike capability, inlike DA/SA guns and DA revolvers.

Take Care

Bob
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Hearing these opinions and reading the research I mostly agree. However, it is officially a DAO trigger. Maybe it's an issue of how to reclassify the traditional SA trigger or creating a new classification. Until then it is defined, by an agreed upon standard, as DAO. I think this may deserve it's own thread as the issue has become interesting. Personally, I would like to be referred to some primary sources on the matter.
 
B.H.B said:
Hearing these opinions and reading the research I mostly agree. However, it is officially a DAO trigger. Maybe it's an issue of how to reclassify the traditional SA trigger or creating a new classification. Until then it is defined, by an agreed upon standard, as DAO. I think this may deserve it's own thread as the issue has become interesting. Personally, I would like to be referred to some primary sources on the matter.
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DAO is good enough for me, if the striker retracts ever so slightly before the gun is fired. This was the logic that kept the XD out of SSP since the striker on the XD's apparently does not and early on Springfield advertised it as a SA gun not a DAO. The XD striker does not retract when the gun is fired. There are youtube videos illustrating this if you care to look for them.

As to wanting to be referred to "some primary source" I suggest you do some of your own homework. If you want to start a new thread fill your boots.

Take Care

Bob
 
Just took out my HK spf9 today. Love it, although it is a lot lighter than my P30L and kicks more than just about any other 9 I have shot. All shots in the black from the get go, and the trigger is a big improvement on my P30
 
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