Looking for ID on this Swiss rifle

[lledwod]

I know very little about milsurps, and would like to know a bit about this, which I am assuming is a K31 ..... the penciled info was under the but plate. And it needs a magazine, looks like trade-ex is a good source? Thanks!

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[kage123]

Looks like a K11? Not a K31

 

[shredder]

There is a sticky at the top of this forum called K31 Important (sorry - USEFUL) Information.

Check your serial number against the numbers posted - there's a lot of info there.

 

[superbee]

k11 not a k31

 

[diopter]

K11, 1918 production.
Can't make out his family name.

 

[polaris]

Cant read Charles' family name, but here is where he lived:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.5289...AX9WrjF13r3aZzqPcA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

 

[tacfoley]

It was repaired by WAFFENFABRIK BERN in 1927 and sold out of service [P].

tac

 

[Canadianbosco]

yup K11, from what I've seen k11 have wood on the bolt handle and k31 have metal

 

[diopter]

Not wood for Pre-K31: Unless someone customized it.
http://theswissriflesdotcommessageb...lt-knobs-were-originally-made-of#.WSOTE2grLIU

 

[tacfoley]

Correct bolt knob material on a K11 is deep red composition of a kind of resinous/plastic-y nature. Leastways, that's what's on mine.

Other handy tints and hips to tell them apart -

1. The K31 magazine butts right up against the trigger guard - as you can see from the OP's pics, the K11 has a good three-inch gap between them.

2. The K31 action is longer because the bolt is almost two inches shorter than the K11.

3. The K31 sight radius is correspondingly longer because of the above.

4. The K31 has a smooth receiver - not grooved like the K11.

5. The K31 has a short length of barrel protruding from the sight block, rather than the long item of the K11.

There are, of course many other differences, but that should get you started.

tac

 

[Canadianbosco]

Not wood for Pre-K31: Unless someone customized it.
http://theswissriflesdotcommessageb...lt-knobs-were-originally-made-of#.WSOTE2grLIU

cool thanks for the link I've never handled a k11 just assumed it was wood based on looks.

 

[diopter]

Welcome.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Correct bolt knob material on a K11 is deep red composition of a kind of resinous/plastic-y nature. Leastways, that's what's on mine.

Other handy tints and hips to tell them apart -

1. The K31 magazine butts right up against the trigger guard - as you can see from the OP's pics, the K11 has a good three-inch gap between them.

2. The K31 action is longer because the bolt is almost two inches shorter than the K11.

3. The K31 sight radius is correspondingly longer because of the above.

4. The K31 has a smooth receiver - not grooved like the K11.

5. The K31 has a short length of barrel protruding from the sight block, rather than the long item of the K11.

There are, of course many other differences, but that should get you started.

tac

The other really big one is if the handguard extends around the rear sight. On the K31 they simplified it and ended it before the rear sight (which is much better than the spring clip easy to break handguard the K11 has).