I would never hesitate to buy an older 64 action. They are very reliable and that's why you see them for sale often. Like the savage anschutz from the 60,so and 70,s.There is also a very good supply of parts available and Nordic has most in Stock. 54 actions are preferred by the top shooters,but the average person is probably not going to see much difference. Again if you have a match ammo that works great in your 64 and a so so ammo in a 54 action the 64 will most likely out shoot it.I think the best bang for your buck is still a MPR. The debate on a magazine vs single shot again is the mag feeding the round nicking or deforming the lead and ruining the aerodynamic.
Anschutz actions - can someone decipher them for me?
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okay, so the 1903 is a 64 action and the 1907 is a 54 action.
that helps clear some things up.
that helps clear some things up.
okay, so the 1903 is a 64 action and the 1907 is a 54 action.
that helps clear some things up.
By golly if you would have checked the thread any time within a week of asking the question in the original post a lot of hot air would have been saved.
Great photo, icedragonmx.
Mr grauhanen
First of all I bought 1903 (64) 2 years ago and never disassemble the bolt at all
I just keep it clean and few drop of oil at right place for reason that I didn't use it much
But i know something for shure that my bolt broke down and i have recently ordered a new part from NM.
And whatever you say I will not change my mind and i know what i went through and I'll take back your expression and stop beating the dead horse and being on my back like I was a liar .
Don't know if you are a Anschutz retailer or something but Annie's are very very good rifles for the price like you have said but not the end of world there is very good other brand .
First of all I bought 1903 (64) 2 years ago and never disassemble the bolt at all
I just keep it clean and few drop of oil at right place for reason that I didn't use it much
But i know something for shure that my bolt broke down and i have recently ordered a new part from NM.
And whatever you say I will not change my mind and i know what i went through and I'll take back your expression and stop beating the dead horse and being on my back like I was a liar .
Don't know if you are a Anschutz retailer or something but Annie's are very very good rifles for the price like you have said but not the end of world there is very good other brand .
That's great.
Please understand that my comment about "hot air" in #45 was about all the words exchanged by everyone on this thread -- mine included -- that were not relevant to the original question. As you say, no rifle is "the end of the world". And no one should make sweeping generalizations as categorical truths, be they about alleged virtues or shortcomings.
What are they and they do they relate to the infamous 64 ?
Humm... controversial subject
First :
They are poor quality bolt design in my opinion with a not so good and irregular empty case ejection without talking about the heavy spring tension on the bolt trigger catch that will get worn out soon or later and with the time the bolt will come out without using the bolt release lever and I've seen in the pass few of them who have done that.
Second :
The poor quality of steel used and the inside tabs weakness as I had mentioned earlier
I'm aware that the new 64 bolt with the black shaft inside are bit better but ....
This is why I bought the 1907 (54) instead ,cost me $1500 to learn the lesson
If I can save time and money to someone else I'll be happy to help
You pay for what you get.
Humm... controversial subject
First :
They are poor quality bolt design in my opinion with a not so good and irregular empty case ejection without talking about the heavy spring tension on the bolt trigger catch that will get worn out soon or later and with the time the bolt will come out without using the bolt release lever and I've seen in the pass few of them who have done that.
Second :
The poor quality of steel used and the inside tabs weakness as I had mentioned earlier
I'm aware that the new 64 bolt with the black shaft inside are bit better but ....
This is why I bought the 1907 (54) instead ,cost me $1500 to learn the lesson
If I can save time and money to someone else I'll be happy to help
You pay for what you get.
Still beating that horse? Or have you mistaken this for a new thread? You've posted many times on this thread, the first time over a week after the OP asked his question and most recently four days ago. Readers understand that you have had a bad experience with one 64 action rifle and as a result you think all 64 Anschutz rifles are prone to breaking, not worth the money, terrible, lousy, and no good. If you have something new to add, that would be good. Instead more hot air.
Rod B
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
So he had a bad experience, one rifle out of thousands. My 64 action runs great as do most of them.I wish he'd give it a rest he is sounding like an old record stuck in one groove.
Glen and Rod B: I'm beginning to think we're being trolled by Annie58, and he's getting off on the responses to his idiotic claims. I was going to respond to his incoherent Post #51 above, but decided against it. It might be best to just ignore future posts by this guy....
I can say my 64R is running fine.
"Compared to the old Match 64, modifications were carried out in the area of the receiver. The external diameter was enlarged from 25 mm to 26 mm. This modification entails some advantages. The weight of the receiver was increased by 12 % which makes the barreled action more rigid. In addition the locking surface is enlarged by 15 % which leads to even more safety for the shooter when firing the shot."
"Compared to the old Match 64, modifications were carried out in the area of the receiver. The external diameter was enlarged from 25 mm to 26 mm. This modification entails some advantages. The weight of the receiver was increased by 12 % which makes the barreled action more rigid. In addition the locking surface is enlarged by 15 % which leads to even more safety for the shooter when firing the shot."
I'm not allowed to give my opinion or criticize anything on cgn ?..
Automatically I'll become a troll or even worst an idiot ?
And by the way you could stay polite (to whom it may concern)
I just gave my opinion on something that you guys don't want to hear about it
and get bashed
So finally the "hot air" become fresh air ,nice isn't it.
European forum are lot more open for discussions and criticism without being an idiot or insulted
anyway I'm done and won't come back so you guys can sleep on both ears now.
Automatically I'll become a troll or even worst an idiot ?
And by the way you could stay polite (to whom it may concern)
I just gave my opinion on something that you guys don't want to hear about it
and get bashed
So finally the "hot air" become fresh air ,nice isn't it.
European forum are lot more open for discussions and criticism without being an idiot or insulted
anyway I'm done and won't come back so you guys can sleep on both ears now.
Hey bud, I know how you feel. Even when you have a legitimate concern with poor quality in a product, the fanboyz don't want to hear it and rake you over the coals while tooting the "product "X" is awesome" horn. Just look at me and CZ's, multiple examples of crappy quality, not just one, and I am not alone, but... nobody wants to hear it.
I do have to disagree with your stance on the Anschütz 64 action, your situation, while crappy that it happened, is highly unusual and exceedingly rare. It does not accurately represent the typical quality of the 64 action that many users enjoy, myself included. Basing your entire opinion of the action quality as a whole, blanket statement due to one very rare defective bolt (working with metal alloys is an art, sometimes a batch of metal is substandard, or not evenly homogenous) That is a supplier issue, not an action design issue, and I would not expect the next 10 Anschütz 64 rifles I might buy to exhibit such a fault.
If you still do not find the 64 action satisfactory to your needs, I might suggest you'll find more happiness in the Stiller 2500X, it should meet your exacting standards. It certainly surpasses mine.
I do have to disagree with your stance on the Anschütz 64 action, your situation, while crappy that it happened, is highly unusual and exceedingly rare. It does not accurately represent the typical quality of the 64 action that many users enjoy, myself included. Basing your entire opinion of the action quality as a whole, blanket statement due to one very rare defective bolt (working with metal alloys is an art, sometimes a batch of metal is substandard, or not evenly homogenous) That is a supplier issue, not an action design issue, and I would not expect the next 10 Anschütz 64 rifles I might buy to exhibit such a fault.
If you still do not find the 64 action satisfactory to your needs, I might suggest you'll find more happiness in the Stiller 2500X, it should meet your exacting standards. It certainly surpasses mine.
