Some days I constantly second guess myself......

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Ok, so I need some input;

I'm not new to reloading, just FYI. I know most of the conventional wisdom, advice, rules of thumb, how brass expands etc. (Bigred51.....you don't have to start posting pictures ;) )

But some days I just constantly second guess myself.

I'm shooting in my Tikka T3 24" barrel, 1-11" twist:

168 AMAX
43.7 Gr Varget (last lot of powder was 44gr, this lot is faster)
Lapua cases
CCI 200 primers
~2680fps
Neck sized only.

Under normal circumstances, the primers have no cratering, they lose their rounded edge a little... (not as bad as federal factory ammo primers mind you), and one might be able to detect the faintest ghosting of an ejector mark. No stiff/sticky lift. 44gr is the Hornady book max, so it seems that in my rifle, their numbers are fairly close (although they call for 2600fps).

This load has served me fairly well for several years.

But about a year ago, shooting in a match where the ammo got reasonably wet from the rain, I got more noticeable ejector marks. And after a 10-12 round string, bolt lift was marginally more stiff than before. Upon reloading the cases, I did not notice the primer pockets being noticeably looser than they should be.

While I realize this increased pressure is likely due to water not compressing and the cases accelerating into the bolt face faster than normal, it has caused me to second guess my load.

My fear is that I have a load that may prove 'excessive' in inclement weather.

So most of you will probably say: "so back off your load". And I can't say I totally disagree with that sentiment.

But on the other hand, maybe I'm being overly paranoid. I've been known to be that at times.

When I got the new batch of powder, I backed off to 43 and worked up to 43.9, and accuracy was best at 43.7-43.8. 43-43.6 was 'enh'.

Do I back down even further to 41.5 and work back up again?
 
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I don't think chamber pressures increase with a slippery shell/chamber. What does increase is the force imposed to the bolt head when the slippery case doesn't grip the chamber walls as it is intended to do
 
I am very much like you OP. I run a 6.5X47 and worried a lot about if it was too hot. I get cratering and on some cases and a little bit of an ejector wipe (almost seems to go away after tumbling). My load is way past book data and it concerned me.

It seems like the reloading world goes from the "never go past book data" to "I am OK with primers falling out". As with most things in life being in the middle of the road is a safe place to be.

Wet ammo does cause these issues so the easiest solution is keep your ammo dry.
 
You've noticed pressure signs , I wouldn't care about the brass wear but if hunting ?? --I am one who had the pleasure of a seized bolt when going for a follow up shot - loads were " kinda hot " and only had the one issue

Once is enough for me - that was AWHILE ago
 
On the Hodgon site: Max load with 168gr projectiles and Varget is 46.0gr (compressed).
Carry on... And bump your shoulder.

But the Hodgdon site is referencing the SMK which has a smaller bearing surface than the Amax. I also believe they are using Rem or Win brass which usually has a little higher case capacity than Lapua.

I guess I'll stick with this load until i have a case vaporize ;)
 
Stick with the load you have. When shooting a match in the rain, I put the ammo in my shirt pocket to keep it dry.

Wet ammo changes the bolt thrust and also changes the MPI, so develop a system to keep ammo and action dry.
 
I've blown more than a few matches with ammo, but the worst I've seen is witnessing 'Headdamage' on here at the 2008 BCRA Precision Rifle shoot, who normally chased the speed dragon, to blow a primer with the wet and the rain. It pooched his score on one string of fire while he fished out the primer from his trigger group.
As I recall, had he shot that string with a decent score, he would have been in the running for the top prize...a PGW Timberwolf...

Rain/wet absolutely can and will raise pressures, and sometimes there is no option to dry your ammo prior to chambering and firing.
Likewise with other weather, temp and elevation. Reliability is the number one consideration for me. Ymmv.
 
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