I find the Hogue Overmoulded stocks to be too grippy
Remington 700 Long Range - bit the bullet and bought it!
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I find the Hogue Overmoulded stocks to be too grippy
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We really should discuss that tablecloth though. 
We really should discuss that tablecloth though.
What the missus wants, she gets
I did 3/4" at 100 yards with mine with factory ammo.
I won't know how mine shoots for a few weeks as my build is soon too get underway.
I'm guessing the Remmy LR will be as good of a shooter as my old Remmy Tac 308.
My friend here in Alberta is a long time rifle builder that will put things together.
I hope he lends me his solid F-Class bipod on testing day as I'm guessing these units "might" be able too put consistent MOA string with hot barrel.
If not, the 28" Jury Barrel will get put on.
PS: The beginning cost of a new Mid budget F-Class rifle starts at $2200 ish CND funds,,, even they benefit from the work overs as well,,, trigger, optics & mounts, bipod come at a extra above cost.
I'm hoping too keep my starter F-C package under the $2000 range, I kept my old Leopold Scope for 20 years for this too happen. LOL.
It's ok if extras above that are needed.
Don
I'm guessing the Remmy LR will be as good of a shooter as my old Remmy Tac 308.
My friend here in Alberta is a long time rifle builder that will put things together.
I hope he lends me his solid F-Class bipod on testing day as I'm guessing these units "might" be able too put consistent MOA string with hot barrel.
If not, the 28" Jury Barrel will get put on.
PS: The beginning cost of a new Mid budget F-Class rifle starts at $2200 ish CND funds,,, even they benefit from the work overs as well,,, trigger, optics & mounts, bipod come at a extra above cost.
I'm hoping too keep my starter F-C package under the $2000 range, I kept my old Leopold Scope for 20 years for this too happen. LOL.
It's ok if extras above that are needed.
Don
The Leopold Vari III 6.5-20x50 has a new friend
Tilly 20 MOA rail, I'm hoping I'll get Zero at 200 yards, so far so good as it bore sighted on Wall chart for the 100 yard mark.
Won't know till it goes too the range.
Carl G freed up the scope turret the other day, now the unit goes to Pal Robert for fine tuning before the test runs.
These Remmy LR's have some weight, I'm ok with this as it will hunker-down nice for the iron silhouettes and on the F-Class range.
The real plus is that this unit "will" be part of the critter exchange when the time comes. Ha.
Long range at range, but not in field as I don't do distant Harvesting,,, never have since its all about getting in close.
Archery has been a blessing for this stuff.
A few more weeks as I'm looking forward too sharing in 1 of my many passions.
Don
Tilly 20 MOA rail, I'm hoping I'll get Zero at 200 yards, so far so good as it bore sighted on Wall chart for the 100 yard mark.
Won't know till it goes too the range.
Carl G freed up the scope turret the other day, now the unit goes to Pal Robert for fine tuning before the test runs.
These Remmy LR's have some weight, I'm ok with this as it will hunker-down nice for the iron silhouettes and on the F-Class range.
The real plus is that this unit "will" be part of the critter exchange when the time comes. Ha.
Long range at range, but not in field as I don't do distant Harvesting,,, never have since its all about getting in close.
Archery has been a blessing for this stuff.
A few more weeks as I'm looking forward too sharing in 1 of my many passions.
Don
Good guns, mine is in 7mm as well. It was $840 to my door from Coastal Outdoors, good deals there on occasion. I have a shooting buddy that has been wanting me to get out with him, has a few places from 700m to 1700m.
Thought after all these years I would try that ridiculous shooting/cleaning break in on this barrel. What a pain in the ass....never done it before, and I'll never do it again lol.
Still working on loads, have the 162 eld-m running 2900fps with imr 4831, throat's are looong on these, seated out to 3.410. it shoots these OK, but not quite happy with them yet.
Other load is 171 Burners at 2800 with H4831, it seems to really like these, and I've pulled off a few ragged hole groups at 200.
Elite 6-24x40, EGW 20 MOA base, Weaver tactical rings, Timney trigger, recoil is quite tolerable so may not bother adding a brake.
Only thing that would be nice is a faster twist...1/9.25 isn't bad but not good enough for the heavier VLD's.
Thought after all these years I would try that ridiculous shooting/cleaning break in on this barrel. What a pain in the ass....never done it before, and I'll never do it again lol.
Still working on loads, have the 162 eld-m running 2900fps with imr 4831, throat's are looong on these, seated out to 3.410. it shoots these OK, but not quite happy with them yet.
Other load is 171 Burners at 2800 with H4831, it seems to really like these, and I've pulled off a few ragged hole groups at 200.
Elite 6-24x40, EGW 20 MOA base, Weaver tactical rings, Timney trigger, recoil is quite tolerable so may not bother adding a brake.
Only thing that would be nice is a faster twist...1/9.25 isn't bad but not good enough for the heavier VLD's.
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I dropped my Remmy 700 LR off for its tune-up project too make sure everything is in order before heading to the range.
Mostly small stuff as its nice to know that the all that's in one's hands "has" actually been checked out from top too bottom.
Yes that these rifles come with the Bell/Carlson stocks with aluminum bedding system factory, but they "could" benefit from getting the action into the "Zero Stress" check over,,, and a small dab of bedding work just too make sure it sits as true as it can over the long hual.
Stock too action mounting is a on-going thing for those that "choose" too pay attention to small details like this.
Mine unit is going to "slowly over the next "3" stages turn into this.
So getting the one 1/16th of it done from the get go is a must for me.
Target trigger, new proven optics for general plinking, iron silhouette, Stock F-Class, maybe Full Bore,,, and if this build comes out the way I need it too,,, it will sever as my game & predator rifle too.
I know I could of just taken the unit out of the box and walked off into the trees and put the berries too it, but making sure all the "ducks" (metaforicly speaking) are in order allows me to consecrate on what I need too do at my end of things.
Plus I don't need this unit for the time being since my back-up scout rifle in the same caliber is ready too go,,, it too had its work over as I start its load development thing.
Not sure at this point in time whether I keep this unit, but both are fully paided for, and the optics game plan is 90% sorted. Fully complete on the scout rifle.
A plus too the scout unit is having folks that "wish" too tag along that don't have a unit, can now par-take in this at their will,,, and they will get the opertunity too use both units as we practic some ranging skills.
This will be learning for the both of us, I have a few years under my belt,,, but am always learning new stuff along the way.
On going thing in our lives at everything we do.
More too follow as this package takes forum.
Don
Mostly small stuff as its nice to know that the all that's in one's hands "has" actually been checked out from top too bottom.
Yes that these rifles come with the Bell/Carlson stocks with aluminum bedding system factory, but they "could" benefit from getting the action into the "Zero Stress" check over,,, and a small dab of bedding work just too make sure it sits as true as it can over the long hual.
Stock too action mounting is a on-going thing for those that "choose" too pay attention to small details like this.
Mine unit is going to "slowly over the next "3" stages turn into this.
So getting the one 1/16th of it done from the get go is a must for me.
Target trigger, new proven optics for general plinking, iron silhouette, Stock F-Class, maybe Full Bore,,, and if this build comes out the way I need it too,,, it will sever as my game & predator rifle too.
I know I could of just taken the unit out of the box and walked off into the trees and put the berries too it, but making sure all the "ducks" (metaforicly speaking) are in order allows me to consecrate on what I need too do at my end of things.
Plus I don't need this unit for the time being since my back-up scout rifle in the same caliber is ready too go,,, it too had its work over as I start its load development thing.
Not sure at this point in time whether I keep this unit, but both are fully paided for, and the optics game plan is 90% sorted. Fully complete on the scout rifle.
A plus too the scout unit is having folks that "wish" too tag along that don't have a unit, can now par-take in this at their will,,, and they will get the opertunity too use both units as we practic some ranging skills.
This will be learning for the both of us, I have a few years under my belt,,, but am always learning new stuff along the way.
On going thing in our lives at everything we do.
More too follow as this package takes forum.
Don
The work over is like a dentist check-up.
I don't need too know what it would shoot like out of the box since its "wiser" too have this stuff sorted in the first place and go from that point onward.
Many folks think they are getting target match rifles that are zero stress free from the factories,,, but more than 50% of them are not 100%-Ly come this way.
And the scope mount put on by a fellow with 50 years of gun Smithing didn't get it right either as he did not do it right.
Not worth my while too start off with disappointment from the get go.
The benefit of pickup the rifle when it's fully sorted and ready too go knowing that it's at its optimum performance cuts down on waisted time.
Not worth my time too not have things checked out.
This is why my scout rifle was done so it can take on what our Americas weather can throw at it.
Knowing that things are done correctly makes life simple.
Don
PS: Each person chooses the path that best works for them.
I need too get onto target like this with a rifle that can stay on track all day, week, month, and years long.
Consistency is a must at range.
You won't get one of these if the rifle is not at its max performance.
If a person "chooses" too go this route.
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So right off the get go I trusted that the other G Smith mounted the Tilly 20 MOA mount correctly onto the action.
As we started the clinic check up we find out that it was not installed in its order as it had rear ramp spacing when the rear screws were removed.
Many of us on this forum and others around the world know that stuff like this will not work over the long hual.
The optic base "has" too fit like a glove in order too accept the rig-a-ma-roll of expansion from hot and cold temps that Canada and the USA encounters.
The old saying stands true.
Pay good funds and get it done right.
The Remmy triggers are awesome, but in match its wise to consider the ones that have a proven track record,,,just like everything else in a build.
Get it as close as I can from the get go,,, then "hopefully" it cuts down on chasing the dogs tail.
Those of us that choose too par-take at National match do not want too have the simple things come up as we pay attention too the stuff that dose come along.
It only take one thing too put one off in a shooting match.
Keeping our mind on task with winds and mirages is a full time job.
If rifle issues are there from the get go, we'd be wasting our time and others.
It's not fair for those at the Butt / Back drop too mark target shoots if we aren't hitting the target every time,,, we hope that its in the V ring as it puts a smile on their face knowing that the fellow up range has his ducks in a row.
One sleeps good at night knowing that things are sorted at the mechanical end,,, it frees up or minds too deal with our selves.
I'm about too find out where this % line is, but my guess its 20% rifle and 80% the shooter... Might even be 90/10 %
Don
As we started the clinic check up we find out that it was not installed in its order as it had rear ramp spacing when the rear screws were removed.
Many of us on this forum and others around the world know that stuff like this will not work over the long hual.
The optic base "has" too fit like a glove in order too accept the rig-a-ma-roll of expansion from hot and cold temps that Canada and the USA encounters.
The old saying stands true.
Pay good funds and get it done right.
The Remmy triggers are awesome, but in match its wise to consider the ones that have a proven track record,,,just like everything else in a build.
Get it as close as I can from the get go,,, then "hopefully" it cuts down on chasing the dogs tail.
Those of us that choose too par-take at National match do not want too have the simple things come up as we pay attention too the stuff that dose come along.
It only take one thing too put one off in a shooting match.
Keeping our mind on task with winds and mirages is a full time job.
If rifle issues are there from the get go, we'd be wasting our time and others.
It's not fair for those at the Butt / Back drop too mark target shoots if we aren't hitting the target every time,,, we hope that its in the V ring as it puts a smile on their face knowing that the fellow up range has his ducks in a row.
One sleeps good at night knowing that things are sorted at the mechanical end,,, it frees up or minds too deal with our selves.
I'm about too find out where this % line is, but my guess its 20% rifle and 80% the shooter... Might even be 90/10 %
Don
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I couldn't stand the snot look so I decided to paint the stock (since I plan on using the rifle also for hunting).
Just did a short term Krylon paint job on it. Still waiting to have the action Armacoated.
Winner winner chicken dinner right here!! ^^^
Gearing up for Open F Class shooting in the next few weeks.
Both iron plates are cut as I get read too attach the carpet.
The rectangular plate is for my Henry Remple F Class bypod rest as its designed for semi-flat ground...
The triangle plate is for my Bench rest Harrison bypods set-up.
3 point contact as it adjusts up to 6" and can be off set too keep my scope bubble level for consistency.
I level the tri pad with my scope bubble by turning one of the butter-fly bolts for fast adjustments at each staging area.
Day 1 of testing the system too make sure it works.
Using my sportster unit while I await for the Remmy LR too get done some time next week.
Did the 200, 400, and 600 today as I built up some loads.
I needed to dial up just a fraction more from the 4 too 600 mark.
Second 600 yard string was looking a bit better.
Bucking small amounts of wind poppers on & off threw the day.
I wish the range had a 900 meter target, but I can go to Calgary for that distance
Tomorrow I find tune once again at the 6 mark as the sporster ain't nothing like the other unit coming.
Practic, practic, practic.
Lots of reading, and getting my reloading skills up too par.
Don
Both iron plates are cut as I get read too attach the carpet.
The rectangular plate is for my Henry Remple F Class bypod rest as its designed for semi-flat ground...
The triangle plate is for my Bench rest Harrison bypods set-up.
3 point contact as it adjusts up to 6" and can be off set too keep my scope bubble level for consistency.
I level the tri pad with my scope bubble by turning one of the butter-fly bolts for fast adjustments at each staging area.
Day 1 of testing the system too make sure it works.
Using my sportster unit while I await for the Remmy LR too get done some time next week.
Did the 200, 400, and 600 today as I built up some loads.
I needed to dial up just a fraction more from the 4 too 600 mark.
Second 600 yard string was looking a bit better.
Bucking small amounts of wind poppers on & off threw the day.
I wish the range had a 900 meter target, but I can go to Calgary for that distance
Tomorrow I find tune once again at the 6 mark as the sporster ain't nothing like the other unit coming.
Practic, practic, practic.
Lots of reading, and getting my reloading skills up too par.
Don
Bought one a few weeks ago from another member here on the Forum.
The gun was brand new/ unfired & I've not shot it yet unfortunately.
Chambered in 300 Win Mag but I'm intending to have it Re-chambered in
7MM Saum using a 26" Fluted barrel I had previously!
shona
The gun was brand new/ unfired & I've not shot it yet unfortunately.
Chambered in 300 Win Mag but I'm intending to have it Re-chambered in
7MM Saum using a 26" Fluted barrel I had previously!
shona
Just got my 30/06 Remington LR back the other day.
Zero stress bedding too hopefully prevent any warp-page in the action department.
Competition Match Jewel trigger set at 8oz for starters.
6-24x50 Sightron optics.
Henry Remple FTR Bypod rest.
Massive supplies of reloading powder, bullets, and primers.
Pretty much ready too rock since steel ground plate is getting the carpet attached,,, and I'm making my own solid sand-bag miny pillow for the rear stock. Very rear...
I need too add some weight to the rear of the stock, I have free access too heavy grade iron so I can fit it between the Gel butt plate and the Factory Bell/Carlson stock.
Open F allows the rifle too weigh in at 10 kg's or 22 ish pounds.
It's looking like I can add 7lbs back there.
Two reasons I want the iron spacer.
The way the rifle sits right now shows signs of being front end tippy,,, this might be ok for other folks,,, but not for me.
Second:
I'm mid tall in my upper body, allowing the rifle too sit forward 2" too 3" inches will put me more into my comfort zone. I don't like my elbow all krinkled up,,, nor do I want it sticking way out the side.
The words of Mike Miller stand true: A person needs to be 100% in their most relaxed comfort zone at all times.
I stay in my position from the first shot till my last never moving or creeping out of my zone.
Each person has their zone,,, find it and stick to it as it only makes sense too add too it as body ergonomics change over the months or years.
Don't be scared too change this up as our body will let us know.
So I can see the benefits of this weight and long stock draw.
So here's the question.
How does a person get those non screwed on gel butt pads off these composit stocks.
I'm not worried if it gets pooched as they make new pads every day.
Don from Western Canada
Zero stress bedding too hopefully prevent any warp-page in the action department.
Competition Match Jewel trigger set at 8oz for starters.
6-24x50 Sightron optics.
Henry Remple FTR Bypod rest.
Massive supplies of reloading powder, bullets, and primers.
Pretty much ready too rock since steel ground plate is getting the carpet attached,,, and I'm making my own solid sand-bag miny pillow for the rear stock. Very rear...
I need too add some weight to the rear of the stock, I have free access too heavy grade iron so I can fit it between the Gel butt plate and the Factory Bell/Carlson stock.
Open F allows the rifle too weigh in at 10 kg's or 22 ish pounds.
It's looking like I can add 7lbs back there.
Two reasons I want the iron spacer.
The way the rifle sits right now shows signs of being front end tippy,,, this might be ok for other folks,,, but not for me.
Second:
I'm mid tall in my upper body, allowing the rifle too sit forward 2" too 3" inches will put me more into my comfort zone. I don't like my elbow all krinkled up,,, nor do I want it sticking way out the side.
The words of Mike Miller stand true: A person needs to be 100% in their most relaxed comfort zone at all times.
I stay in my position from the first shot till my last never moving or creeping out of my zone.
Each person has their zone,,, find it and stick to it as it only makes sense too add too it as body ergonomics change over the months or years.
Don't be scared too change this up as our body will let us know.
So I can see the benefits of this weight and long stock draw.
So here's the question.
How does a person get those non screwed on gel butt pads off these composit stocks.
I'm not worried if it gets pooched as they make new pads every day.
Don from Western Canada
Here's my up date on the 2017 Remington LR 30/06 rifle.
My F Class gun Smith zero stressed the action, installed a Jewel target match trigger to 8oz, Sightron 6-24x50 optics with fine cross hairs / center dot, Henry Rempel F Class bypod rest.
I've run 200 rockets down the pipe at 600M,,, the 26"x21" iron gong is easy too tag,,, about a 50/50 score on the 16" gong at that same distance.
This long weekend I'll be launching another 200 rounds down there at 600M too get my score too 75% hits depending on the winds.
My other new unit that is close to a twin of the Remmy LR is A Remington SPS heavy barrel in 308.
It is sporting a Leopold 6-20x50 optics, Hraison bypod still in factory mode as another Jewel trigger is i
on its way.
It scored 60% hits because I'm use too the stiff trigger world. LOL
200+ rounds down this pipe as well.
Both barrles will see a cleaning after the 400 count.
Later this winter once I have 2500 shots out of the Remmy LR, it will see a 34" Bob Jury barrle.
Can't for the life of me remember the custom stock builder.
A long Cheery wood F stock will go on at the same time.
I've been a fan of Remington triggers for all these years, but after working with the jewel triggers I can feel the benefits of consistency.
This is coming from a fellow with pizz poor shooting habits on top of that.
If I had too do it all over again, would I go this same route,,, the answer is 100% yes.
This is the best long distance "consistant" shooting rifle I've owned too date,,, I'll be at my 900 M mark in the next few weeks in the Southern BC shoot coming up.
Just like my pal Robert said,,, get out there Don and shoot that barrle off that rifle as a new tube will replace and improve things after that.
Don
My F Class gun Smith zero stressed the action, installed a Jewel target match trigger to 8oz, Sightron 6-24x50 optics with fine cross hairs / center dot, Henry Rempel F Class bypod rest.
I've run 200 rockets down the pipe at 600M,,, the 26"x21" iron gong is easy too tag,,, about a 50/50 score on the 16" gong at that same distance.
This long weekend I'll be launching another 200 rounds down there at 600M too get my score too 75% hits depending on the winds.
My other new unit that is close to a twin of the Remmy LR is A Remington SPS heavy barrel in 308.
It is sporting a Leopold 6-20x50 optics, Hraison bypod still in factory mode as another Jewel trigger is i
on its way.
It scored 60% hits because I'm use too the stiff trigger world. LOL
200+ rounds down this pipe as well.
Both barrles will see a cleaning after the 400 count.
Later this winter once I have 2500 shots out of the Remmy LR, it will see a 34" Bob Jury barrle.
Can't for the life of me remember the custom stock builder.
A long Cheery wood F stock will go on at the same time.
I've been a fan of Remington triggers for all these years, but after working with the jewel triggers I can feel the benefits of consistency.
This is coming from a fellow with pizz poor shooting habits on top of that.
If I had too do it all over again, would I go this same route,,, the answer is 100% yes.
This is the best long distance "consistant" shooting rifle I've owned too date,,, I'll be at my 900 M mark in the next few weeks in the Southern BC shoot coming up.
Just like my pal Robert said,,, get out there Don and shoot that barrle off that rifle as a new tube will replace and improve things after that.
Don
