Remington 700 issue loading a round

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I'm having a problem. I have a Remington 700 XCR Tactical in .223. When cycling the action and I attempt to move the action forward the bolt pushes the tip of the round too low and it hits the outer edge of the chamber every time. I have to seat each round in the chamber by hand for every shot. After I seat a round by hand it still takes an unreasonable amount of force to push the bolt forward the last half an inch.

A lot of what I've googled just says "it needs to be worked in" but I've had the rifle for awhile now and put quite a few rounds through it and it hasn't changed a bit. Thanks in advance.
 
Handloads? Sounds like the bullets aren't seated deep enough And may be hitting the lands before the bolt is closed all the way. Can't say forsure though. I would chamber a round and pull it out and see if there's any marks on the bullet from hitting the rifling.
 
Not hand loads. I've tried pretty much every major brand with different bullet weight and they all do the same thing.
 
Sounds like your magazine or BDL system isn't lifting the bullets high enough to slide into the chamber but instead hanging up on the box. Sounds like something is wrong with the chamber if it takes force to push the bolt forward too. If the bolt went all the way forward but just took some force to close the bolt I'd say your bullets were seated too far out or your cases were too long for the chamber but that's a different one. It's almost like you're using the wrong caliber for the gun.

I'd recommend contacting remington directly and see what they say.
 
Clocked92 said:
Sounds like your magazine or BDL system isn't lifting the bullets high enough to slide into the chamber but instead hanging up on the box. Sounds like something is wrong with the chamber if it takes force to push the bolt forward too. If the bolt went all the way forward but just took some force to close the bolt I'd say your bullets were seated too far out or your cases were too long for the chamber but that's a different one. It's almost like you're using the wrong caliber for the gun.

I'd recommend contacting remington directly and see what they say.
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Agreed. Possibly a headspace issue
 
The bolt takes an unreasonable amount of force to push the bolt forward the last half an inch.... absolutely not a headspace problem.. if the headspace was 3 or 4 thousands of an inch too tight, you would not feel that until you started to close the bolt and you wouldn't be able to close the bolt.

There is a problem with feeding, one I have found often with the 223 case in 700 BDL's. Make sure the box is seated properly in the action and bottom metal... you should be able to move the box when the screws are tight. Bend the follower spring slightly to increase upward pressure on the follower. If no success try Remington.

If you drop a round in the chamber is the bolt still hard to move forward the last 1/2 inch? Does the bolt move and close freely with no shells?
 
guntech said:
The bolt takes an unreasonable amount of force to push the bolt forward the last half an inch.... absolutely not a headspace problem.. if the headspace was 3 or 4 thousands of an inch too tight, you would not feel that until you started to close the bolt and you wouldn't be able to close the bolt.

There is a problem with feeding, one I have found often with the 223 case in 700 BDL's. Make sure the box is seated properly in the action and bottom metal... you should be able to move the box when the screws are tight. Bend the follower spring slightly to increase upward pressure on the follower. If no success try Remington.

If you drop a round in the chamber is the bolt still hard to move forward the last 1/2 inch? Does the bolt move and close freely with no shells?
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Good to know. That was meant to be a question not an opinion as well so thanks for the explanation....
 
guntech said:
The bolt takes an unreasonable amount of force to push the bolt forward the last half an inch.... absolutely not a headspace problem.. if the headspace was 3 or 4 thousands of an inch too tight, you would not feel that until you started to close the bolt and you wouldn't be able to close the bolt.

There is a problem with feeding, one I have found often with the 223 case in 700 BDL's. Make sure the box is seated properly in the action and bottom metal... you should be able to move the box when the screws are tight. Bend the follower spring slightly to increase upward pressure on the follower. If no success try Remington.

If you drop a round in the chamber is the bolt still hard to move forward the last 1/2 inch? Does the bolt move and close freely with no shells?
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Yes, the bolt is still hard to close if I drop a round in and yes it moves and closes freely with no shells.
 
feldmann said:
Yes, the bolt is still hard to close if I drop a round in and yes it moves and closes freely with no shells.
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Hard to close can mean a few things...
Have you owned other 700's for comparisons sake?
When engaging the extractor on a 700 it normally takes a firm push to get over the case rim. Is that the 'hard to close' you describe?
Or is the 'hard to close' the downward movement of the bolt handle?

Does it do this with other makes of ammo?
 
Its the forward and downward movement of the bolt. I've tried almost every major brand of ammo with the same result.
 
Probably used a worn out reamer and the body is a little tight, xcr is internal mag fed the angles and heights machined into the bottom of receiver may need tweeking to fix the feed issue.
 
Sounds like a bad extractor. Is there any marks on the rim of the case after you close the bolt? I just had the same problem with a 700 vssf. Changed the extractor problem solved.

Derek
 
If your careful you can remove the extractor with a couple picks. Then try to load a round see if that makes a difference. But you have to extremely careful not to damage the extractor when doing this ,it's easily bent or broke. Ive owned more than a dozen 700s and this was the first one I've encountered with this problem. I to thought it was headspacing or a chamber problem took a bit of time to figure it out , the reason i finally looked at the extractor was the shiny spot it was leaving on the rim of the case.
 
If you chamber a round, then open the bolt and pull round 3/4 of the way out and then re-chamber, does it repeat the problem?

If not, it sounds like an extractor issue.

Try removing the bolt, slipping a round onto the bolt face and then try chambering that. If it goes smoothly -it is an extractor issue.
 
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