Glock blocked: OPP dumps SIG for Glock

kxc223 said:
That's great news for Glock! I guess every little contract will help them stay in business of course it's not a ten year $580 million dollar Army contract but good on them anyways.
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Am sure Glock winning the FBI and US SOCOM bids helps too :p plus most of NATO uses Glock...
 
do not see anybody copying a Sig, nonetheless, every body and their gramma have released a new striker fired this year.

So no, it is not outdated.
 
Avenida said:
do not see anybody copying a Sig, nonetheless, every body and their gramma have released a new striker fired this year.

So no, it is not outdated.
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So because it's striker fired it's copying a Glock? Doesn't that mean that Glock copied HK who copied Savage who copied FN?

Just because the action is similar hardly makes a copy.
 
I thought the OPP just got, or were just selling off some sig p226 elite Sao 9mm? My LGS had 6 of them through MD Charleton. But I've read a few places that OPP uses 40s&w?
 
TT1900 said:
So because it's striker fired it's copying a Glock? Doesn't that mean that Glock copied HK who copied Savage who copied FN?

Just because the action is similar hardly makes a copy.
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None of the brands you listed ever really took off. The Glock recipe of a DAO striker fired polymer framed pistol with no manual safety, very low bore axis, locked breach and high capacity is what everyone is trying to copy. The Savage 1907 is a single action steel frame rotating barrel design with a manual safety. The FN/Browning 1900 is also single action with a manual safety, it's also straight blowback(not a locked breach like modern pistols) and chambered in a very anemic cartridge. The VP70 is the closest cousin to a Glock and it did preceed it by a decade but was short lived, had a horrible trigger, lacked other features like replaceable sights and was not very successful.
 
liftedjsmith said:
I thought the OPP just got, or were just selling off some sig p226 elite Sao 9mm? My LGS had 6 of them through MD Charleton. But I've read a few places that OPP uses 40s&w?
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That would be a lie as LE in this country is forbidden to sell their firearms to the public..
 
enefgee said:
...and the Glock isn't?
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Lets see, long heavy double action first pull followed by a very light single action pull with tons of slack with no defined wall then more slack after the reset. High bore axis, large grips, less capacity, wider, heavier, pointless exposed hammer and don't forget to decock before you holster... Yeah the SIG is outdated.
 
Kidd X said:
Lets see, long heavy double action first pull followed by a very light single action pull with tons of slack with no defined wall then more slack after the reset. High bore axis, large grips, less capacity, wider, heavier, pointless exposed hammer and don't forget to decock before you holster... Yeah the SIG is outdated.
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The OPP pistols were all double action only with no de cocker. As for the trigger action I'm sure that the new Glocks will be ordered with a much heavier trigger than the civilian versions as is common with most LE Agencies.
It will be interesting to see the configuration of the new pistol. The OPP were very reluctant to issue pistols with a rail as they did not want officers to have pistol mounted lights nor supply holsters to accommodate lights. As I understand it Sig did not want to produce P229 frames without a rail and wanted to introduce the DAK trigger system. Some officers were also issued P239's so I wonder what will replace those.
 
Ganderite said:
I thought Ontario police were required, by law, to use a 40?
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According to the Police Services Act and regulations for use of force,, R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 926: EQUIPMENT AND USE OF FORCE (dated 2013)
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/900926

Can be 9mm or 40.
Also, interesting is:
Technical Specs
Must be Semi-automatic pistol,
A. that requires a single consistent trigger pressure of not less than 8 pounds and not more than 13 pounds to discharge the weapon on each shot, and
B. all the safety features of which are housed within or are a part of the trigger system.
 
Unit price, maintenance costs and spare parts are the primary driving force when deciding firearm contracts.
While I like both I can pick up a glock 17 for literally half the price of a Sig 226.
 
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kxc223 said:
The OPP pistols were all double action only with no de cocker. As for the trigger action I'm sure that the new Glocks will be ordered with a much heavier trigger than the civilian versions as is common with most LE Agencies.
It will be interesting to see the configuration of the new pistol. The OPP were very reluctant to issue pistols with a rail as they did not want officers to have pistol mounted lights nor supply holsters to accommodate lights. As I understand it Sig did not want to produce P229 frames without a rail and wanted to introduce the DAK trigger system. Some officers were also issued P239's so I wonder what will replace those.
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Odd since SIG makes the new M11A1 "P229 with no rail"
 
If they are switching from the Classic P22x series, good move. While I love my Sigs, I would think a lighter polymer gun would be much nicer to carry. Now if only I could buy one of their surplus guns... :'(
 
I KNOW!

But odds are they will keep their Sig X5s.

Do we know if they are going to 9s or are they staying with 40s?

enefgee said:
Didn't they just get new Sigs a couple of years ago? If I was a TRU guy I'd be p*ssed about handing in an X5 and getting back a Glock.
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I am a glock lover but to me it's simple, I have seen sigs,and many other pistole brands malfunction in some way while being shot... I have yet to see that happen to a glock not once...
 
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